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2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    This is the unfair way Leslie Stahl treated trump... she actually listened to his answer, and, and, asked him a follow up question. #unfair. And notice, trump still couldn't answer the question. Because he doesn't care if millions of Americans lose health care coverage due to pre-existing conditions. Just doesn't care. And will simply lie about it.


     
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    Conservative columnist and author George Will...

    Trump will end his presidency as he began it: Whining
    As the Donald Trump parenthesis in the republic’s history closes, he is opening the sluices on his reservoir of invectives and self-pity. A practitioner of crybaby conservatism — no one, he thinks, has suffered so much since Job lost his camels and acquired boils — and ever a weakling, Trump will end his presidency as he began it: whining.

    His first day cloaked in presidential dignity he spent disputing photographic proof that his inauguration crowd was substantially smaller than his immediate predecessor’s. Trump’s day of complaining continued at the CIA headquarters, at the wall commemorating those who died serving the agency. His presidency that began with a wallow in self-pity probably will end in ignominy when he slinks away pouting, trailing clouds of recriminations, without a trace of John McCain’s graciousness on election night 2008:

    “Sen. [Barack] Obama has achieved a great thing for himself and for his country. I applaud him for it, and offer my sincere sympathy that his beloved grandmother did not live to see this day — though our faith assures us she is at rest in the presence of her Creator and so very proud of the good man she helped raise. . . . And my heart is filled with nothing but gratitude . . . to the American people for giving me a fair hearing before deciding that Sen. Obama and my old friend, Sen. Joe Biden, should have the honor of leading us for the next four years.”

    Just 12 years separate the nation from this tradition of political competition bounded by banisters of good manners. Subsequently, the Republican Party has eagerly surrendered its self-respect. And having hitched its wagon to a plummeting cinder, the party is about to have a rendezvous with a surly electorate wielding a truncheon. The party picked a bad year to invite a mugging, a year ending in zero: Approximately 80 percent of state legislative seats will be filled this year, and next year the occupants, many of them Democrats wafted into office by a wave election, will redraw congressional districts based on the 2020 Census.

    After Democrats controlled the House for 40 years (1954-1994), control of it changed under four presidents (Bill Clinton in 1994, George W. Bush in 2006, Obama in 2010, Trump in 2018). Trump’s legacy might include a decade of Democratic control of the House.

    Our Democracy in Peril: A series on the damage Trump has caused — and the danger he would pose in a second term

    Political prophecy is an optional folly, but occasionally, as now, it might be useful by encouraging eligible voters to take the trouble to participate in a historic correction. It is not yet probable, but is not highly improbable, that Joe Biden can become the first candidate in 32 years to capture more than 400 electoral votes (George H.W. Bush, 426 in 1988). He can do this by carrying some Trump 2016 states where Biden is either leading or within the margin of polling error — Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Ohio and Texas.

    Texas is the most important red state: Without its electoral votes (38 today; probably 41 in 2024), the Republican path to 270 is dauntingly narrow. Trump’s 52 percent in Texas in 2016 was the lowest Republican total in 24 years (when Bob Dole split the anti-Clinton vote with Ross Perot). With seven of the nation’s 15 fastest-growing cities (El Paso is almost the size of Boston; San Antonio is twice the size of Seattle), Texas illustrates the Republican Party’s understandable antipathy toward that which it exists to persuade: the electorate. Texas’s Republican governor, with the elastic scruples of his party, has ordered (this is being litigated) that each of the state’s 254 counties shall have only one drop-off site for absentee ballots — one for Loving County (population 169), one for Harris County (Houston, population 4.7 million, 70 percent non-White), one for Brewster County, whose size (6,192.3 square miles) could hold Connecticut with room remaining for more than half of Rhode Island.

    The GOP’s desire — demonstrated in myriad measures in many states — for low voter turnout is prudent: As the nation becomes more urban, suburban, diverse and secular, the Republican Party becomes more fixated on rural and small-town White voters. Thirty-six percent of Americans lived in rural areas in 1950; in 1990, 25 percent did; today, 17.5 percent do. Now, the rural population, 60 million, is about what it was in 1945. Since then, the urban population has almost tripled.

    Analyst Charlie Cook asks: “In 2016, 87 percent of Trump’s vote came from whites. For congressional Republicans in the 2018 midterms, it was 86 percent. Is this sustainable?” You have to admire Republicans’ jaunty, if suicidal, wager that it is.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...4eee30-130a-11eb-ad6f-36c93e6e94fb_story.html
     
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    In the same interview he also indicates his support for ending the ACA entirely. I guess we'll get to see this in ads for the next two weeks.

     
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    Trump only up 7 in the NYT/Sienna poll. (Marshall up 4 in the Senate race) That's a 13 point swing from 2016. These red state polls should terrify Republicans. Biden is getting massive swings in red states. He won't win states like Kansas but it paints a picture of a huge popular vote swing. Also the Kansas swing is large enough to where Republicans will probably lose their supermajority in the legislature so they'll lose the ability to gerrymander Kansas.

    We've also seen similar swings in other red state polls. For example, an Oklahoma poll that came out yesterday had a 14 point swing for Biden, a Kentucky poll had a 13 point swing and a Missouri poll had a 13 point swing. Now these places aren't polled very often so we don't really have follow up polls to confirm any of this but these are the kinds of places where Trump would be expected to dominate and he's doing considerably worse this time around.
     
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    I just saw a Trump ad about Hunter Biden's emails. This is now the official line of attack from Trump.
     
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    Tomorrow starts the last Scaramucci (11 days) of the race.
     
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    trump is such an embarrassment... on a call with the PM of Israel (to tout the Israel Sudan agreement) he asks the PM "do you think "Sleepy Joe" could have brokered this deal?". Pathetic. btw, the PM chose to be diplomatic since he may be having to deal with "Sleepy Joe" next year...

     
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    LOL Trump was just on the phone with benjamin Netanyahu bragging about the peace deal Israel made with Sudan. benjamin Netanyahu use to bend over and suck Trumps **** but when Trump asked Netanyahu on live phone if sleepy joe could've made the same deal and he completely sidestepped it and said "we welcome help from all Americans." You saw how upset it made Trump and it was a reality check moment for him. Trump asks that same question 6 months ago and Netanyahu has his back.

    Its just hilarious how all politicians, Your best buddy yesterday turns into a nobody a day later. Oh man LOL that was hilarious

    haha i was just answering that. You forgot that Netanyahu didn't answer the question and told Trump we welcome help from anyone. Netanyahu isn't a dumbass and he knows not to put his eggs in one basket.

    Trump got a HARSH reality of politics lmao
     
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    "If I was a betting man..."
     
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    Covid Clown seems to disavow (...in complete denial) the fact that 2020 has been a shitshow and without bringing any new plan or direction forth, this current feeling of sunshine and unicorns is what people will expect in his second term.
     
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    Lol.

     
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    I don't get what all the progressives and liberals are crying about. You had a Democratic candidate who was up 10% in polls go on stage and defend transitioning from oil to renewables, 15$ minimum wage, a public option for affordable healthcare for all, an overhaul of immigration.

    I have friends who are telling me he wasn't liberal enough lol. The minority party holds zero leverage in a democracy remember that.
     
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    Kevin Whitelaw

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    More than 52 million Americans have already voted. That's more than 38 percent of the total number of people who voted in 2016. Election Day is 11 days away.
     
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    One october surprise that would blindside most is if Mitch kicks the bucket before next week.
     
  19. Dubious

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    Looks like blood thinner and a fall. Typical old man stuff. And they may be having a tough time getting his numbers right, blood thinners are tricky and it's easy to go too thin

    ///has old friends
     
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    It's amazing that I can still be amazed with the **** he pulls.

    How pathetic can you be?

    How the hell is Netty still in charge?
     
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