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2016 Random Astros Trade Ideas

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by The Beard, Jun 13, 2016.

  1. Nook

    Nook Member

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    I doubt they wouldn't have to "include Bregman to even sit at the table"....
     
  2. awc713

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    Reed/Martes/Musgrove/Daz [keeping 1 of Reed/Tucker] might just get it done. Sale's request for a trade has to diminish his trade value somewhat. Before this incident occurred, Jon Heyman reported the cost was 5 prospects.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Nowhere has it been reported that he's requested a trade. That tweet posted above was a hypothetical "if that happened it would be..."
     
  4. cdain3

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    The rangers will atleast have to give up Mazara, Gallo, Profar, and a pitching prospect.
     
  5. Snake Diggit

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    If Rangers don't include at least 4 of Gallo, Profar, Mazara, Brinson, and Tate, it's not enough.
     
  6. boozle222

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    Too much for too little. Would love to see them make that trade just to destroy 2017-2020.
     
  7. The Beard

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    Would hardly "destroy 2017-2020"

    Sale, Yu and Hamels alone would make them a favorite every year
     
  8. jsingles

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    This should mean something here, he sure has been all-star caliber pitcher the last few years and has been in the top 6 in Cy-young for a few years but he's not a generational pitcher. About 10 pitchers out there (not many available right now of course) that I'd take over Sale, lets not mortgage our future for the guy.
     
  9. jsingles

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    Someone I'd look at is Teheran. Guy is 3-8 but an ERA under 3 and a WHIP under 1. His contract is cheap as hell and putting him on a winning team would only strengthen his resolve. He is every part of who i'd want the Astros to go after.
     
  10. boozle222

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    Still have to score runs... Look at their offense right now. I don't care who is pitching, they don't have the lineup to support a playoff run.
     
  11. The Hunted

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    So we just gonna ignore this guy going Brutus Beefcake on his team's jerseys? I'd still take him, but jeez.
     
  12. Snake Diggit

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    Unfortunately the Rangers have a good core most of whom are under control for awhile, and they also have one of the best farms in baseball, so even if they trade away quite a few prospects they will still be very good for the foreseeable future.
     
  13. Airdough

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    Trading for Sale would take a lot of those controllable chips. They would still be a great team but not unstoppable. After acquiring all of those aces, the Phillies still only won one World Series.
     
  14. Snake Diggit

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    I agree; my point was that anyone hoping that the Rangers trading for Sale will cripple their farm and doom them to a decade-long stay at the bottom of the standings is probably asking too much. As much as I would love to see that.
     
  15. 713

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not a joke: Source says Sale blowup was because he didn't want to wear throwbacks, so he cut the jerseys up so no one could wear them.</p>&mdash; Tommy Stokke (@StokkeTommy) <a href="https://twitter.com/StokkeTommy/status/757000213731037184">July 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    He said the jerseys were uncomfortable and didn't want to wear them for his start today. He was pissed that the team was more concerned with PR than winning.
     
  16. Airdough

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    Guess it would be Chapman with Yankees saying they're keeping Miller now. Chapman might be someone they could keep, if he would like to play with Gurriel and/or the Astros offer the opportunity to start again.
     
  17. Airdough

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    I tend to think the pressure of possibly being traded is getting to him. The throwbacks are the fans who pony up the cash that helps pay his salary so that might be what the Sox are using as an explanation but it's really random to blow up at throwback jerseys.
     
  18. Spacemoth

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    Pitching-wise, there's about 2 guys I'd take over Sale, Kershaw and Bumgarner, and maybe two more who are near equivalent in value, Strasburg and Syndegaard. Factor in the contract, though, and you could argue that he's the most cost effective pitcher in baseball among guys not on rookie contracts.

    I know it would hurt, but with 2+ years of control on a reasonable deal, if you trust his medicals then you have to think he's as valuable as any-five-but-Bregman in our farm system. And even Bregman if not too much else is included on our side.

    I know, like many of my friends, I'm at the point where I don't want to trade Bregman for anything. He's the lotto ticket that's hit on five balls out of six so far, and the last ball is about to be read. His floor is JJ Hardy and his ceiling is Pedroia/Kinsler/Michael Young. But damn, look at who we have up the middle for the next decade. People will be writing books about Altuve and Correa in the future. They're going to be the topic of barroom chatter regarding greatest double play combo of all time, alongside guys like Ripken/Alomar, Whitaker/Trammell, Morgan/Concepcion, Jackie Robinson and Pee Wee Reese.

    The pieces kinda fit for a Bregman Sale swap! If you're Luhnow you at least have to be crunching the numbers, calling in your actuaries and doing a risk benefit analysis on the deal.
     
  19. juicystream

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    FWIW, Yu Darvish will be a FA after next season (he would probably be one this season if not for his injuries over the last few seasons).
     
  20. conquistador#11

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    These are the unis. whitesox needs one of our fabulous garm uniform designers. The sleeves are too big and fit sale like a cardboard box.

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