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2016 Random Astros Trade Ideas

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by The Beard, Jun 13, 2016.

  1. Joe Joe

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    Using Fangraphs contract estimating methodology and ROS projection, I get 4 years at 63 million for Tulowitzki (or 3 years for 53). That would bracket him between Zobrist and Gordon last year which seems very reasonable. The 4 years for 80 million would be 21% more per year than the Fangraphs methodology estimated.

    Among batters, only three guys signed for a higher percentage per year than Fangraphs estimated last season. All of them signed one year deals instead of the 3 or 4 year deals predicted by Fangraphs (2 of them accepted the QO). The highest percentage Fangraphs underestimated on a multiyear deal was 13 percent for Chris Davis. Unless something dramatically changes, 4 for 80 for Tulo looks well above a reasonable contract.
     
  2. the shark

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    Tulowitzki would be of interest if he could stay healthy. Unfortunately if you go back over his career he hasn't been able to do this.

    '15 128 gms played
    '14 91
    '13 126
    '12 47
    '11 143
    '10 122
    '09 151
    '08 101
    '07 155
     
  3. awc713

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    I think we're eyeing Bautista, with the idea that we'll ride him out for this season, and offer him the QO knowing good and well he won't take it. Get Joey Bats for half a season and hedge Martes with a comp pick, not a bad idea. I love the depth in our system.
     
  4. Nippystix

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    Players that are traded mid-season cannot be offered the QO. So if we trade for Joey Bats, he will be a free agent with no QO attached to him.
     
  5. juicystream

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    Would have made the Kazmir deal pretty much a win-win.
     
  6. The Beard

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    Couldn't get the QO on a mid season guy

    But I agree we are more likely looking at him. Martes for a rental is a lot, but if Bautista is healthy our lineup would be as good as any
     
  7. awc713

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    Ah, thanks. Given Joey Bat's bad blood with dallas, I'm sure he'd fit right in. We could use some of his post-season-bat-flip-swag against the southern oklahoma ramgers
     
  8. HstnSprtsFan101

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    Would be awesome to have his presence for the post season run!
     
  9. Hey Now!

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    I'm failing to see the logic from, well - anybody's perspective. For the Astros, they're going to gamble a top pitching prospect for ~2.5 months of a 35-year old with turf toe? And if the gamble pays off... why would the Blue Jays make one of their wild card competitors better for (likely) zero ROI on the Major League level?

    The Astros and Blue Jays don't seem to make for natural trading partners.
     
  10. The Beard

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    I agree we don't seem like good trading partners at all

    But, if the reports of them being "on" Martes are true, Bautista seems the most likely to me
     
  11. kaleidosky

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    Why not Encarnacion? 1B/DH for the playoff run if Reed continues to struggle? (i.e. Astros kicking the tires in the event that they want to deal when the deadline approaches)
     
  12. Nick

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    Perhaps.

    I really don't see a major issue in both teams evaluating each other... or one team doing it unilaterally.

    A lot can change in the standings between now and the deadline.... both for the better and for the worse.
     
  13. Snake Diggit

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    I think it would be pretty stupid for Houston to trade Martes for any rental player, especially a rental DH/LF/1B.
     
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    Do they have an extra LH reliever who's worth a damn?
     
  15. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    looking for good lefties on non-playoff teams who have performed well. Here are the ones with a sub-2 ERA so far (plus Chapman b/c he came to mind):

    Dario Alvarez, ATL
    Buddy Boshers, MIN
    Andrew Miller, NYY (of course)
    Aroldis Chapman, NYY (of course)
    Dan Jennings, CWS
    Will Smith, MIL
     
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    Will Smith would be a great addition. Dudes filthy
     
  17. juicystream

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    Doubtful they would release Sipp given his contract and performance the 2 previous years. Who's spot does he take?
     
  18. HstnSprtsFan101

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    Could look to trade Feldman or Neshek. Plenty of teams that would be takers IMO. But that is a good question, great problem to have but we gotta have an upgrade over Sipp LHP wise
     
  19. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    Let me add lefties who are on non-playoff teams and who have sub-.170 BA allowed vs. lefties (with a reasonable # of innings pitched):

    Hunter Cervenka, ATL
    Ryan Buchter, SD
    Sean Doolittle, OAK
    Mike Montgomery, SEA
    Brad Hand, SD
    Boone Logan, COL
    Will Smith, MIL (again)

    Guys like Cervenka, Hand, or Logan might be more attainable given that they're lesser names / closer to specialists.
     
  20. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    I think Neshek, while pitching great vs. righties, is redundant at this point with the backend of the pen set, Feldman/Feliz/Devenski having more flexibility, and Hoyt ready to fill in as needed.
     

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