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2016 Random Astros Trade Ideas

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by The Beard, Jun 13, 2016.

  1. juicystream

    juicystream Member

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    He wouldn't be that expensive.
     
  2. Nippystix

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    Sorry, I meant the acquisition cost would be expensive, partly because he is so cheap and cost-controlled, just to be even more confusing, hahaha!
     
  3. HTOWNTAKEOVER

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    Drew Pomeranz


    for


    David Paulino, Derek Fisher and Tony Kemp




    Would the Padres say no?
     
  4. cangrejero51

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    You know the funny thing? It only cost them Yoder Alonso and Rypeczinki to Oakland, INCREDIBLE.

    Now, how good is Pomeranz? Former 1st rounder, i think picked number 5 and traded to Colorado, ouch with Alex White, former Astros for Ubaldo Jimenez.
    Pomeranz has a nice fastball and very good knucker curveball, and always has a nice K ratio, usually in the upper 8's and this year in the 10 plus per 9 inning.

    I would not trade him if i was the Padres, so that means the only way i do it is by getting a lot of very good minor leaguers in return. I would not trade a nice left handed pitcher, club control until 2019 unless i get a top prospect like Bregman.
    The ones they will try to trade are Ross and Cashner, but both are injured at the moment.

    Ross would be an interesting option depending on his injury which is the shoulder and he had a set back, so we don't know about his health.
     
  5. cangrejero51

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    The Astros at the moment have few needs:

    CAtcher we have a very good combo at the moment with Castro/Gattis
    1b Marwin we could use a better option, he is good, but i see him more as a utility, not a regular 1b.
    2b Altuve is an MVP
    ss Correa is one of the best
    3b Valbuena, I like the combo of Valbuena/Marwin there.
    LF Rasmus is ok
    cf Gomez is playing very very good baseball right now
    rf Springer very good
    dh Reed, he should be able to hit

    Bullpen, Sipp is struggling, so we need a left handed out of the bullpen. giles still struggling, last 10 games hitters are hitting .289.

    The ones pitching very good

    Harris 9th
    Gregerson 8th
    Feliz 7th

    With Neshek as situational with righties

    Feldman doing a nice job pitching multiple innings.

    Devenski, been underutilize, i think he should go vs lefties, that change up is really nasty.


    So we have 6 doing good, and 2 struggling. I have high hopes from Sipp and Giles, but lets see, right now the need is a lefty.

    Rotation:

    K
    McCullers
    McHugh
    Fister
    Fiers

    The rotation is doing much better, but definitely if we can get a top pitcher, lets do it.

    Now, who would be there? Teheran?
    Next year FA pitchers are not very good, so any starter is going to cost a lot.

    I would go after Smyly, the 2 and 7 record, and 4.78 ERA is misleading. He would be a nice number 2 for us. What would it take to get Smyly? Free Agent in 2019. Probably Martes and 2 other prospects.
     
  6. HTOWNTAKEOVER

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    no way in hell im trading martes in a package to get smyly
     
  7. cangrejero51

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    Problem is getting a starter is going to cost like crazy. Smyly is 27, career 3.52 ERA and a whip of 1.170. He has 9 K per 9 innings.

    Lets compare numbers with K

    He is 28, career 3.81 ERA 1.273 whip and 7.1 K per 9 inning.

    Right now Smyly looks as a better option than K
     
  8. cangrejero51

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    I just read Astros and others in the hunt for Melacon
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Link?
     
  10. xcrunner51

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    Dude, 4 out of the last 5 posts? Just stop. You've killed the entire Astros forum.
     
  11. Rox225

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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    2-8 5.32 after today

    How is that misleading?
     
  13. Snake Diggit

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    Saw that but I'd be pretty surprised to see Houston add RH relief help. Giles, Harris, Gregerson, Devenski, Neshek, and Feliz makes 6 guys all throwing really well and fully capable of handling high leverage innings. Add in Hoyt, McCurry, and Gustave from AAA and I just don't see how it makes sense for them to trade for a righty reliever.
     
  14. kaleidosky

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    Took all the spaces out for you. But, I don't think the Padres would say "no" per se--I think they'll get a better offer for Pomeranz at the deadline. He's pitching too well.
     
  15. Airdough

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    I'm super reluctant to want a Padres pitcher unless his numbers away from Petco are nearly the same. Petco is to pitchers what Coors is to hitters.
     
  16. cangrejero51

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    My friend, i will continue to talk baseball, sorry if you don't like it, i will continue to talk baseball, but, you are next in my ignore list, as i don't see you talking much baseball
     
  17. cangrejero51

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    the whip, is very low and a very good K per 9 innings.

    The only red flag is injuries, but he is a very good pitcher, this is the moment to try and get him because the numbers are bad, but whip is good and K numbers.
     
  18. cangrejero51

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    Martes has the stuff, he could be a number 1a pitcher in a rotation, and Tampa will look for something like that as Smyly is cheap and has nice career numbers, and is still young. Also, there are not many good starters available, and FA has no major names.

    Smyly was involved in the Price trade to Tampa, he is good.

    Now, if we go after Melacon, then our bullpen would be great, especially if Giles is able to turn around the season.
    We would only need 5 innings from our starters.

    Closer Melacon
    Set up Harris
    7th Gregerson/Giles
    6th Gregerson/Giles

    Also Feliz in the mix

    So instead of going after a starter, and giving our minor league system to another team, we can do the KC thing and have an impossible bullpen and work with our guy that are usually good for 5 or 6 innings.
     
  19. kaleidosky

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    From what I've read, Petco is no longer that type of pitcher-friendly place. I think they made some adjustments in the past--don't know what exactly. But last I heard, it ranked something like 9th in terms of pitcher-friendly parks...which is still on the pitcher side of things, but far from the anti-Coors nowadays.
     
  20. Rox225

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    I agree. Team has other needs before a RH relief pitcher. The article seems to be nothing but opinion. The only reason I can think we'd pursue a guy like Melancon is if mgmt is not confident that team has a true closer. Harris is the closer because Giles and Gregerson couldn't hold the job. And Harris, for all of his success, hasn't really closed the door on the closer role (no pun intended).
     

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