That's why he's a wildcard. His decision making isn't always the best, but he can make all the throws. Can he be coached up? What does he know about defenses? Is it the talent around him or him? I don't think he's the clear cut number one, like others do. There's too many unknowns. It's very early, though. All three of the top seniors are potentially better than Goff. Who knows? Like I said, don't count out Hackenberg, either. He's got everything needed to be a franchise quarterback. Problem is, he's lost a lot of talent in his short time at Penn State.
There are no franchise QBs in this draft. They're all gonna get picked apart [from now until after the combine]. Time to take another DE/LB! :grin: Colts own the division and the Texans. They need to get after Andy Luck! Joey Bosa? What's better than having one J.J. Watt? Two! Robert Nkemdiche! DeForest Buckner? DE, Oregon Myles Jack of all trades! Shawn Oakman? DE, Baylor Spoiler <PRE>RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND 4 Jared Goff QB 1 California Jr 6-4 210 1 9 Connor Cook QB 2 Michigan State rSr 6-4 220 1 36 Cardale Jones QB 3 Ohio State rJr 6-5 250 1-2 39 C. Hackenberg QB 4 Penn State Jr 6-4 236 1-2 63 Gunner Kiel QB 5 Cincinnati rJr 6-4 208 2 75 Joshua Dobbs QB 6 Tennessee Jr 6-3 212 2-3 85 Dak Prescott QB 7 Miss. St. rSr 6-2 230 3 89 Carson Wentz QB 8 North Dakota St.Sr 6-5 231 3 101 Brandon Doughty QB 9 Western KentuckyrSr 6-3 216 3-4 117 Cody Kessler QB 10 USC rSr 6-1 215 3-4 157 Nate Sudfeld QB 11 Indiana Sr 6-6 240 4-5 173 Kevin Hogan QB 12 Stanford rSr 6-4 225 5 201 Jacoby Brissett QB 13 NC State rSr 6-3 235 5-6 213 Blake FrohnapfelQB 14 Massachusetts rSr 6-6 230 6 230 Mike Bercovici QB 15 Arizona State rSr 6-0 205 6-7 237 Trevone Boykin QB 16 TCU rSr 6-1 205 6-7 270 Vad Lee QB 17 James Madison rSr 6-1 225 7-FA 280 Taysom Hill QB 18 Brigham Young Sr 6-2 232 7-FA 285 Max Wittek QB 19 Hawaii rSr 6-3 240 7-FA 303 Vernon Adams Jr.QB 20 Oregon rSr 5-11 205 7-FA 359 John Robertson QB 21 Villanova rSr 6-1 221 –– 369 Travis Wilson QB 22 Utah Sr 6-7 233 –– 381 Jake Coker QB 23 Alabama rSr 6-5 232 –– 397 Everett Golson QB 24 Florida State rSr 5-11 200 –– 409 Brandon Allen QB 25 Arkansas rSr 6-2 210 –– 424 Josh Woodrum QB 26 Liberty rSr 6-3 225 –– 437 Chuckie Keeton QB 27 Utah State rSr 6-1 210 –– 448 Jeff Driskel QB 28 Louisiana Tech rSr 6-4 234 –– 468 John Gibbs Jr. QB 29 Alcorn State Sr 6-5 220 –– 482 Matt Johnson QB 30 Bowling Green rSr 6-0 221 –– 517 Maxwell Smith QB 31 San Diego State rSr 6-4 235 –– 531 Jake Rudock QB 32 Michigan rSr 6-3 210 –– 562 Liam Nadler QB 33 Gannon rSr 6-6 228 –– 583 Joel Stave QB 34 Wisconsin rSr 6-5 225 –– 596 Marquise WilliamsQB 35 North Carolina rSr 6-2 220 –– 626 Keenan Reynolds QB 36 Navy Sr 5-11 195 –– 652 Sean Goldrich QB 37 New Hampshire rSr 6-2 208 –– 679 Terrel Hunt QB 38 Syracuse rSr 6-3 234 –– 720 Michael Brewer QB 39 Virginia Tech rSr 6-0 200 –– 753 Jaquez Johnson QB 40 Florida AtlanticrSr 6-1 225 –– 777 Michael Eubank QB 41 Samford rSr 6-5 246 –– 812 Sam B. RichardsonQB 42 Iowa State rSr 6-2 215 –– 850 Joe Licata QB 43 Buffalo rSr 6-1 227 –– 905 Kyle Pohl QB 44 Akron rSr 6-3 217 –– 944 Morgan Roberts QB 45 Yale Sr 6-2 204 ––</PRE>
Read somewhere Hack has lead feet? Other than that, I believe he could be okay but would he be ready to start Game 1?
Dude's accuracy is horrendous. Not sure why anybody would be looking at him as a bonafide prospect at this point.
I didn't watch, but those who did were raving about his performance. Like you said, the box score doesn't really show a dominant performance, but maybe that doesn't tell the whole story.
Hack is horrible. How much longer can you blame his teammates around him. He is like Ryan Mallet except without the upside.
Goff is still the top QB. He had 5 picks…a couple of them were tipped balls…and one of them hit the ground (poor call by the officials to call it an INT). Also, he threw a dart right into his receivers hands for a TD, but the WR couldnt bring it in. His offensive line was in no way, shape, or form talented enough for that defense…he was basically getting his ass handed to him on every drop back. All things considered, that game wasn't nearly as bad as the 5 picks sounds. He had his team right there to win the game against a top ranked team.
Hackenberg and Penn St were no match for Cardale. Who's next up in line? They line 'em up and Cardale takes them down.
Sounds like you're making excuses for Goff. I don't think Cardale has ever had a 5 pick game. That's just terrible.
He'd never get the chance. Goff has never been benched, Cardale gets himself benched every other game.
