2016 Draft: QB Progress Watch

Im certain that the Texans will draft a QB with their #21 overall pick.

 

I'm afraid Wentz will vault himself ahead of us, but man, I'd love to have him.

His floor is Blake Bortles. His ceiling is someonster mash of Tebow's running ability meshed with a Cutler arm (but far better mentally).

 

If you like Lynch or Wentz, give up next year's first and trade up to get them. Tired of screwing around with this position. The defense is fine, the O-Line is fine.

Needs:

QB
QB
QB
TE
OG
WR
ILB

 

The Texans would idiots to trade up for QB in this year's draft. Those drafts and that chance have come and gone.

 

Goff, Lynch, Hack, Wentz, Cook - Just grab one of them. Probably all mediocre. Not as good as Winston and Mariota as last year. No need to draft up to get one of them. At 21-22, one of them will fall.

 

Rb also.

And if Duane doesn't return healthy or Brooks leaves, more OL

 

Not as good as Mariota and Winston because we didn't suck bad enough to get those guys

 

They are all mediocre compared to my QB. Who, btw, has beaten the best.

 

can't waste Watt's prime, pick a QB you want and trade whatever picks it takes to get them (or trade for Brees)

 

I just don't see how they can risk it at this point. Lynch, Goff and Wentz all are prototypical NFL QBs (which differs from the 14 draft where only Bortles was). Cleveland, NOLA, 49ers, Rams, and Bears are all looking at the QB position. Cook and Hack scream upgraded Hoyer to me.

I do trust BoB with the QB position and RAC with defense. Bucs, Chargers and Cowboys are good trade up targets. Let's just hope Jones really is committed to Romo.

 

How high would Clowney and our first get us?

 

Trade pick for Brees

 

They need to evaluate the QBs and see if they think any of them have the potential to be franchise QBs. You don't need to find the next Luck or Rodgers. You just need to find the next Flacco or Matt Ryan. You need a guy who you think you can pencil in as the QB for the next 10 years and not have to grasp for a solution every year.

*If* you identify any of the guys in the draft as that, you do whatever it takes to get them. You don't just settle for whichever guy falls to you - you find the guy you think can be the best of the bunch and you try to go get him. Otherwise, you will end up wasting year after year with no purpose.

People point to the RG3 trade as an example of why not to trade lots of draft picks for a QB. But at the end of the day, St. Louis is the team still searching for a QB and stuck in eternal mediocrity, despite all the draft picks they got. The Redskins made the playoffs in RG3's rookie year, and even despite that not working out, they are in the playoffs again. So the worst outcome happened and they are *still* in a better place than St. Louis.

In the Texans case, the cost to move up would be far less since there's no Luck/RG3 combo at the top of this draft and you don't necessarily need to move to #2 to get the QB.

 

We need a power RB to compliment Foster, a speedy WR to compliment Hopkins (but need a QB who can throw deep), and of course a QB. We can find help on defense which is already pretty good. More OL if we lose some guys.

 

The QB's this year aren't to great. It's hard to know if any of these guys will be any good. No for sure guys.

 

You can't give up on Clowney yet. The guy is just getting his feet wet.

 

Not only that, he actually performed really really well this season which was essentially his rookie year.

 

On the same note, the Texans haven't really lost ground on anybody by not hitching their wagon to a drafted QB... and they're *still* in a better place than St. Louis and in a similar place as Washington (minus the albatross RG3 contract and an additional year of losing).

They need to make an effort for a QB... but there are also now less needs elsewhere than there have been in the past (when they passed up on QB's to address other positions of need).

 

Washington wins; we pick at 21. If they don't, we pick at 22

 

They haven't lost ground, but they waste years. You had an all-world RB who's probably done now. You have an all-world DE now. If you got a QB a few years ago, maybe their primes merge. If you get a QB today, and it takes 3 years to get to where you want him to be, maybe Watt is on his downside or injured or whatever. Let's say Clowney becomes good - his contract will be over, and maybe he's gone (like Mario Williams, who lived up to the #1 pick level but still was let go due to financial constraints).

Every year you don't invest in a QB is a year you waste away all the other talent you've acquired.

Are there really fewer needs? Or are the needs just different needs? Maybe you addressed a few positions, but in the meantime, your great RB is now done and your top CB is getting old, etc so you have new needs there. Until you establish the QB, you're just cycling through other players and not actually building anything.