2015 Astros Minor League Thread

If that "howevah" was at all a My Cousin Vinny reference, you have made my day. I was working under the impression that we were looking at Correa and Bryant as I**CLAP**DENTICAL

 

Special players that rely on power alone may take more time. Correa can hit baseballs. Right now, the only reason to be hold Correa down is the Astros wanting Correa to dominate MLB from day 1 without much of a transition period. Correa isn't being held down because due to club control issues at the moment.

 

Rep for whoever explains to me what Super 2 means..

I know that it's about club control for a player, but what sets the date for each player, and what purpose does it serve? Why not just have a certain amount of years of club control no matter who the prospect is or how old the prospect?

 

After 3 years you automatically get arbitration eligible

Super 2 is for players who have two years, if they do not have 3 years but at the end of the year fall within the top 22% of players without three years in terms of service time, then you are arbitration eligible

I think this rule, in addition to the silly two week rule for an extra year of free agency are crazy....but this is what Super 2 is

 

The other huge factor is that he can already play big league defense at short.

 

There's always a transition period.

If Mike Trout can get a transition period and then thrive... same could be said for CC.

And the fact remains, there's no sure-fire way to know if somebody can "dominate" from the start.... until you actually start them.

If you honestly believe that playing MarGo or Villar everyday over Correa gives the Astros a better chance to win now, then so be it... but if not, then you have to adhere that club control issues do always play more of a role than the company will ever say.

 

JD Martinez didn't need a transition period. Kike didn't need a transition period. Altuve didn't. Some people come up and hit. Some don't. Hard to judge whether a hitter in 120 ABs is not ready or just having a bad 120 ABs.

 

Can't tell if you're serious or not... JD and Altuve were not the hitters they are now when they came up. Not even close. And Kike???

Add Lance Berkman and A-rod to the list as well.

There's always a transition period.... and your last sentence exemplifies why you can't really say if a player is "ready" till you get them up here, and even if they fail initially, it doesn't mean they're incapable of adjusting.

In addition to a higher level of play, a lot players cite everything... from traveling in chartered planes, staying at 4-star hotels, per-diems, hanging with GROWN MEN, media interviews... etc. etc. etc. There's a huge adjustment factor that the minors will never completely prepare you for.

 

They aren't the same players, but they did not have a transition period coming to majors.

 

We must be using a different definition of "transition" period.

You expect the team wants Correa to excel from day one as the primary reason for keeping him down... yet none of those players mentioned above came close to playing at a high level right off the bat.

Every player has a "transition" period where they have to adjust to the big leagues.... and sometimes it takes more than 120 AB's.

Over this generation, there's really been one player to dominate at an MVP-like level from day one of his MLB debut... and that's Albert Pujols.

I expect Correa's debut season (whenever it will be) to be closer to Junior Griffey (also needed time to adjust... as a 19 year old) than to Albert Pujols.

 

So JD Martinez didn't have a great couple of months coming up?

 

And btw, hitters have not been improving as much in the majors since the steroid era ended.

 

But there's still an adjustment factor... which was true before the steroid era, during the steroid era, and will be true afterwards.

The sooner Correa gets exposed to MLB pitching, the sooner that adjusting will start... whether its after super-2 or next April.

 

Not as good as his minor league numbers... not where he is now. And clearly there was an adjustment needed as he didn't keep it up beyond the hot start.

Didn't Chris Truby have a great start to his career?

Flukes do happen as well. Shouldn't discuss those types of players in comparison to Correa.

He's not going to be mentally crushed by early failure... and again, I've yet to see the "metric" that portends no adjustment needed.

 

Yes, players perform worse in majors than they do in minors. Altuve played immediately as well as he was expected. JD had a lucky streak, but then sucked. Neither had a transition period from the minors to the majors. One had a lucky streak in contrast of Trout's unlucky streak. Both had huge improvements while in the majors,but after a long period of consistent play.

 

No, they had a serious transition period after they got to the majors.

 

One of my buddies works with the organization.

I've learned by now he can't just give out information.

However, today he picked up Carlos Correa in our fantasy baseball league.

It's the type of league that you don't waste a bench spot in.

 

Don't mess with our emotions like that. Please be true.