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2014 Antoine Walker Persistence Award

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Joe Joe, Mar 6, 2014.

  1. Joe Joe

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    Persistence is defined as "firm or obstinate continuance in a course of action in spite of difficulty or opposition." Antoine Walker exemplified the very essence of persistent chucking throughout his career. 1,386 made 3 pointers in 4,264 attempts for a 32.5% clip. The Antoine Walker Persistence Award goes to the leader in 3 point attempts while have a 3 point percentage equal or less than 32.5% (Walker's career average).

    The current leaderboard for the award are as follows:
    1. James Anderson 248 3PAs, 31.9%
    2. Jordan Crawford 216 3PAs, 31.0%
    3. Gordon Hayward 216 3PAs, 30.1%
    4. Josh Smith 203 3PAs, 23.2%

    Keep on chucking my friends!

    Note: Jones 34th, Motiejunas 42nd

    Idea for this award comes from Spacemoth. Stats from basketball reference.

    Edited John to Josh.
     
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  2. steddinotayto

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    It's a travesty that the NBA never added a 4 point line during Walker's career.
     
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    Ha, very interesting. J-Smoove even changed his name to John out of shame at his percentages.

    Poll: If Gordon Hayward was on your team, would you be okay with Hayward chucking up such a vast amount of threes at such a brutally bad percentage given that opening night, he was a three-year vet with a 40% career three point average?
     
  4. Roxnostalgia

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    And a couch for him to sit in while he shot them.
     
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    I followed the Hawks closely for many, many years and I can assure you that this award should be named after Josh Smith.

    If you could have heard the chorus of "ugh's", "no's" and groans anytime Smith chucked up a three pointer or long two. Truly comical.
     
  6. arjun

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    regardless of being a chucker...who didn't enjoy walking walker/pierce boston era? they were a fun team.
     
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    antoine walker - ncaa champion, nba champion, 3-time all-star
     
  8. arjun

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    NBA LIVE 99 baby!
     
  9. Joe Joe

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    He is on a bad team and isn't getting good looks most likely. That said, he probably needs to be more selective.
     
  10. roflmcwaffles

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    Singly toine's shimmy made them a fun team.

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    Couldn't find a gif
     
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    I like this award so much I checked out the past winners. It's interesting how the nature of 3-point shooting shifted in a way that it went from bit players winning the award to superstars who aren't great jump shooters stumbling into it because it's 'expected' for a perimeter scorer to fire away when open.

    Also, White Chocolate really had a chokehold on this category in his prime.

    The '80s
    1980: Mike Newlin
    1981: Michael Ray Richardson
    1982: Michael Ray Richardson
    1983: Allen Leavell
    1984: Michael Cooper
    1985: Gus Williams
    1986: Mike Evans
    1987: Leon Wood
    1988: Derek Harper
    1989: Chuck Person

    The '90s
    1990: Chris Morris
    1991: Michael Adams
    1992: Michael Adams
    1993: John Starks
    1994: Vernon Maxwell
    1995: Vernon Maxwell
    1996: Vernon Maxwell
    1997: Gary Payton
    1998: Isaiah Rider
    1999: Jason Williams

    The 21st century
    2000: Jason Williams
    2001: Jason Williams
    2002: Jason Williams
    2003: Antoine Walker
    2004: Baron Davis
    2005: Antoine Walker
    2006: Donyell Marshall
    2007: Jamal Crawford
    2008: Lebron James
    2009: Nate Robinson
    2010: Andre Iguodala
    2011: Rudy Fernandez
    2012: Kobe Bryant
    2013: Kobe Bryant
     
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    Found one:

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    1) People need to understand that a 32.5% in 3 pointers is the same as having a 49% 2 point FG%, which while not optimal, is not that bad.

    2) If you have a PF that can shoot 3s, it opens up the floor for the other 4 players.

    3) If Josh Smith is shooting 32.5% from 3, you absolutely tell him to shoot at least one 3 per game to make it easier on offense for his teammates.
     
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    Uhhhh what about when Josh Smith is shooting 23%?
     
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    Hayward keeps chucking away.. And people said he was better than Parsons.. Lolol
     
  16. Joe Joe

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    Unless the 49% shooter is being fouled at a normal rate for two point shots and the 32.5% shooter is being fouled at a normal rate for 3 point shots.

    32.5% is not optimal and if it encompasses a large percentage of your shots (which for Antoine Walker Award winners..it does), it hurts your team.
     
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    If someone could just make this gold..it would be the perfect trophy.
     
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    Josh is just not that good of a three-point shooter. He actually gets a lot of open looks because of the inside tandem of Drummond and Monroe.
     
  19. steddinotayto

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    If you're taking 9 3s a game to only make 3 of them, that's pretty bad considering a few of those shots could have went to higher % shots.

    But if you're jacking up 3s at a ridiculous rate (like the guy who's name is emblazoned on this award), you're not opening up the floor for anyone. A shooter like Dirk and Kevin Love keeps defenses honest and opens it up because they shoot at a respectable rate. Guys like Josh Smith and Walker has their defender sagging off of them, waiting to get a rebound.

    How is Josh Smith shooting 3s making it easier for his team? The only thing his teammates can expect is to get ready to grab the offensive rebound 77% of the time (considering he's shooting at 23%). If your teammates know that for every 4 shots you take that you're going to miss 3 of them, that makes it easier for said teammates to NOT want to pass you the ball.
     
  20. Joe Joe

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    Sorry, I meant to refer to Gordon Hayward.
     

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