he'll be starting in the NFL next year, UCLA hasnt beaten Stanford since 2001... they have their number
Its all about injuries due to hits. Running QB's are always going to be at risk for taking more hits than pocket passers. If you're building in running plays for your QB, you're accepting that risk. If you build a decent O-line, and you have a QB with decent enough awareness to get rid of the ball, you can avoid injuries that occur simply due to hits. There will always be a fluke injury that can happen (like Brady's knee), but if you avoid those, you end up with a career like Peyton, who's never been knocked out of a game due to a hit (but suffered from chronic conditions that all these players could have). Also, the future rules are always going to favor contact against pocket passers vs. contact against running passers. And despite all the "rage" about running QB's in the NFL... there really haven't been that many of them. Certainly not enough to do a valid comparison of whether or not they get more injured (and whether or not the injuries are due to them running and taking a hit, vs. another form).
wow just checked the boxscore... Aaron Murray lost another game... this time to Vandy, man no wonder this guy is a borderline 5th round pick... smh
Matt Stafford missed more time than RG3 as a rookie... RG3 has only missed 1 game in his career... funny how people forget that
He didn't do anybody any favors by playing hurt last year... and he doesn't look healthy this year. Also, I always felt he had a great enough arm to just scrap the read-option with him, and make him as much of a pocket passer as possible. I feel QB's running ability should be valued and utilized either as a big-time change-up (the occ. bootleg), or to help them scramble away from pressure situations. The more "set" running plays you run for them, the more risk you take.
he's only 22, it takes 2 years to recover from the injury he had, he'll be back to normal maybe by november, but he is getting better week to week
their is a huge double standard because last year, it was Andrew Luck getting credit for the Colts wins, and not their opportunistic defense that made key stops for them after Luck kept turning the ball over. Andrew Luck had gamewinning drives last year, this year Geno has the most in the NFL
By what metrics are you saying he's getting better week to week? If he's not healthy, I don't think he's helping his team by being out there.
Andrew Luck never had the top 5 defense in the NFL through 6 weeks. The Jets have won games mainly due to their defense. Geno has been inconsistent, he's looked good one week and bad the next. Their defense has been consistent though which is why their record is what it is.
Not all hits are the same though. A blindside hit in the pocket while your arm and shoulder are potentially exposed is going to create much more risk than taking a hit while running and expecting it. It's why RBs are injured much less per tackle than QBs are. Running QBs will likely take more hits, but they'll generally be less severe because the running QB avoids the gruesome hit in the pocket more. Agreed with that - I think it's just easy to make a correlation between running = injury risk. And you had one guy who was the true running QB (Vick) for a long time and he got injured a lot, so people make that association - but I don't think there's any evidence at this point one or another about running QBs vs pocket QBs with regard to injury risk.
Luck was inconsistent last year as well... i mean did you see his numbers last year sans passing yards... he had HELP
But with a running QB (especially a "smallish" one), the ROUTINE hit can cause injury... doesn't have to be a gruesome hit. There are just far more risks for a QB that consistently runs vs. ones that don't. There's even more risk for the QB that runs that doesn't ever slide (Manziel) vs. ones that do slide (even though Hoyer tore up his knee this year on an attempted slide). I certainly don't think a running QB's best strengths should be used on consistent called running plays. I think they're valuable to escape pressure... but the more you run them on designed plays, the more they'll get hurt.
Luck was inconsistent but their offense was really why they were winning games. The Jets defense has been the primary reason they have 3 wins, Geno has done well in those 3 games so I'm not saying he wasn't a reason, but I'd give the defense more credit than the offense. Their front 7 is pretty damn special.
just backing them up with facts if Andrew Luck had the season he had last year, and didnt have the wins, would he still be seen as a rookie of the year candidate. Luck can do no wrong in the media's eyes
