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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. ILoveTheRockets

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    When it comes to my line of work, Trader_Jorge is flat out right. You guys are wrong.

    But Governor Ricky isn't helping things here in Texas to be fair. When the Fed ended the Medicaid for Women's Health program back in March, we lost a good bit of clients that used our service. But that was due to Perry and Obama butting heads like a bunch of Billy Goats.
     
  2. geeimsobored

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    What does that have to do with Obama? Obama did nothing to change the women's health program. It had been there before. Perry just used the issue as a chance to score points with the right at the expense of women.

    Seems to be an issue that only deals with Governor Perry.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    That's not true. Oil production has been much higher historically. So that's yet another one of your lies exposed.
    www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=us&product=oil&graph=production


    Thanks to horizontal drilling and fracking technologies that the energy industry developed in the face of fierce opposition from the Obama administration, oil production has increased in recent years. You'd be hard pressed to find Obama supporters among employees of oil companies. That's because he and Lisa Jackson do their best to thwart, delay, and kill domestic oil projects every chance they get.

    Today's oil production rates are up because of technological advances, not because Obama has helped further the cause of drilling. Just think where production would be if we had an energy-supportive administration in office! Democrats have been killing oil production projects for decades.
     
  4. Major

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    So you're saying your problem with Obama is gas prices? Several questions for you:

    1. Gas prices were higher 4 years ago than today. How does this fit with Obama's policies in your mind?

    2. You claimed: "Obama's investments in the private sector has single handed sank my profits." What does this have to do with oil prices?

    3. You also said: "Obama's love affair of the corporate private sector has hurt business in a major way." Again, relevance?

    4. "It has almost gotten to a point where when Obama signs a new law, bill, whatever... I can fully guarantee I will be either losing profit, or another client." Explain the connection to oil prices?
     
  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    I just continue to pound the strikezone with facts and truth and if I do that, then the wind will stay at my back. I pity the position that the libs are forced to argue from today -- after these last 4 years of failure, it's all about negativity, division, and attacks. America deserves so much better.
     
  6. ILoveTheRockets

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    IMO, they could have dealt with it a lot a better to keep the program going. They left no wiggle room, it was either get it straight or your done. Like I said, both sides were to blame on that one. This single handed left me getting away from medical courier services, to dealing with more cargo and legal services.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You know what's kinda weird.

    I use to think Trader Jorge was on the fringe right wing nut, not I think he's a mainstream right wing nut.

    Republican party is such a backwards cesspoll of fools. So sad.
     
  8. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    We're frankly waiting for your first intelligent, substantive post. All I hear is blah blah blah Fox News talking point blah blah blah leadership rah rah rah blah blah blah. You're a robo call on steroids.

    You know what I did find pretty hilarious is your whole Clinton thing. This from the crew that has wiped Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, and Palin from existence with their glaring no show at the RNC. You all disavow that entire disastrous regime while trying to bring us the same policies that torpedoed the economy in the first place and threw us into two wars. Yeah, no thanks.
     
  9. ILoveTheRockets

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    Budget Cuts in areas that has nothing to do transportation can directly hurt my business because I offer such a wide range of services.
     
  10. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Yet another weak attempt at an insult -- I guess no one can challenge the facts that I put forth -- all of which stand tall.


    The_Conquistador. Never before defeated in debate. Never bested in battle. Never flummoxed!
     
  11. Major

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    So in other words, oil/gas prices aren't your issue?

    If your issue is budget cuts, you'll hate Romney given that his whole agenda is to slash government. I don't even see why there would be a question here for you?
     
  12. Deckard

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    Beautiful! Well said by your friend. Yes, that's what people will remember about this GOP convention. Clint, the Chair, and how putting Clint on that stage bumped the 10 minute video introducing Romney to the nation on prime time OFF the national networks, so that Americans failed to see it. You know, those Americans willing to learn something about Romney while watching coverage on CBS, NBC, or ABC. The majority of the country, who don't get their news from FOX or MSNBC, regardless of what Republicans, and FOX, would like the country to believe.

    What a massive failure by the Romney campaign. Incredible. A perfect storm of stupidity.
     
  13. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    EVERYONE is talking about Clint Eastwood -- that alone is a sign that it generated interest and accomplished its objective.

    On the other hand, who is the campaign mastermind behind MOUNT OBAMA -- the sand statue of Obama that is prominently featured at the DNC?
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/sep/1/rains-wash-away-mount-obama/

    Hilariously, and perhaps symbolically, it was washed away by rains last night. A harbinger of things to come, metaphorically.
     
  14. ILoveTheRockets

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    Well of course gas prices are an issue. Who said they weren't. In March gas prices hit the highest prices they ever had for that month. Sure prices might be holding steady for a bit. but that one or two big surges in gas prices really is a profit killer for the entire year.

    Especially with the recent hikes because of rigs being halted. It's just something I have to adapt to more than a person who drives to a office or job site and parks their car.

    I can sit here and talk about budget cuts and gas prices until we are blue in the face and show you how it affects my line of work. But I'm not concerned about that for elections. My concern is who is best fit to improve this economy which in return boost my business profit, and personal profit. More jobs America gets, along with more support to the public sector jobs and employees and entities means more business for me, which in return means more contribution to the country I love.
     
  15. Major

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    And gas prices were higher in the Bush years, so I don't see the relevance here.

    That's from Hurricane Isaac. Unless you think one President can stop hurricanes, I again don't see the relevance.

    A couple of hours ago, you seemed very concerned about these specific things.

    You keep moving the target here. First you say specific policies have crushed you - but you can't or won't list any. Then you want to know who'll help the public sector the most. Then you just want the economy as a whole helped. Or maybe budget cuts not to happen. If you can't figure out what you want, I don't know how you expect anyone to help you figure out who to vote for.
     
  16. CometsWin

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    The public sector is going to continue to be cut. The difference is Romney is going to completely slash it because he's a government sucks proponent.
     
  17. GladiatoRowdy

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    I counted no fewer than nine lies in that, but given your history, won't bother to break it down.

    http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qq6ku/
     
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  18. ILoveTheRockets

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    Maybe, but Bush also made this claim and put a backbone back into the public sector. Obama didn't make this claim, and reversed pretty much every thing Bush did concerning private/public sector.

    I guess I can just throw darts at the board and see who gets hit in the nose first.
     
  19. QdoubleA

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    Your objective was to be globally mocked? Unlikely.
    You're equating that public embarrassment at the convention to a sand sculpture being washed away? Desperate reach is desperate.
     
  20. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Good grief you are clueless when it comes to energy prices. Oil and therefore gasoline prices were high during the Bush years because the global economy was GROWING RAPIDLY and demand for oil was rapidly increasing. As it stands today, liberal policies in the US and Europe have destroyed global growth and the central banking response has been to print money. Because oil is traded in dollars globally, this causes oil prices to go up and therefore gasoline prices to go up. These are very very different reasons for the high oil prices. Surely you are smarter than simply making a correlation argument without examining the inputs. Maybe not.

    Regardless, gasoline prices have DOUBLED since Obama has come into office and his policies bear a large degree of responsibility.

    By the way, Major, will you please find it in your heart to donate to Clutch and help sustain this great website? It's an absolute embarrassment that it has taken you this long. Don't be a freeloader.
     

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