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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. Kojirou

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    Oh, please. Tea Partiers are just the offshoot of Paul's ideas infused with the religious nutjobs in the Republican, where any government spending becomes a foolish prospect. Hightop and his crazy is a good example. The fact that the media chooses to call you out out on the junk that appears at tea party rallies just serves as an example.
     
  2. thumbs

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    Says a person who obviously has never attended a rally by a tea party in person and who has never worked within a tea party line. As in all groups, you find some with whom you agree and some you don't.
     
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  3. mc mark

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    I have been to several tea party rallies and have tea party neighbors. Kojirou is 100% correct.
     
  4. thumbs

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    For some reason I find it difficult to believe you attended a tea party rally to talk with people to understand their motivations for rallying rather than to throw verbal stones.
     
  5. Major

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    This isn't true:

    http://digitaljournal.com/article/289821


    "Tea Party supporters are likely to be older, white and male. Forty percent are age 55 and over, compared with 32 percent of all poll respondents; just 22 percent are under the age of 35, 79 percent are white, and 61 percent are men. Many are also Christian fundamentalists, with 44 percent identifying themselves as “born-again,” compared with 33 percent of all respondents."


    If that's true, they do an absolutely wretched job of picking candidates, because none of their candidates actually votes this way.
     
  6. mc mark

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    Yes, I'm sure your "discussions" with your fellow tea partiers are the epitome of reasoned discourse as well.
     
  7. thumbs

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    I'm always a little suspect of the motivations of a news network using "citizen reporters." Personally, I'm fairly typical of tea partiers and I am 65, retired, Hispanic, Southern Baptist and fiscally conservative so I fall mostly into that demographic. However, my nephew's group is mostly under 30.
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The vast majority of the republican party is old. You do know that right? In 20 years the GOP of today is going to have to shift radically to the left to stay relevant.

    But it will be a different world by then. With a new constitution.

    We the Corporations, in order to form a more perfect business, elect Mitt Romney to increase our profits.
     
  9. thumbs

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    Younger people tend to be liberal. As they age, they tend to become more conservative. It's the way of the world.

    As much as you fear a business-dominated state, which is not an unhealthy fear, I fear the bureaucracy driven state Obama is trying to achieve.
     
  10. RedRedemption

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    So you'd much rather live in a world dominated by a group of corporations whose sole purpose is to achieve greater wealth?
     
  11. thumbs

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    I would much rather live in a world free of people trying to frame inane questions in hope of getting an inane answer.
     
  12. Dubious

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    The government is your neighbors, cooperatively building a just society; unless they are co-opted for personal profit.
     
  13. glynch

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    Originally Posted by thumbs
    Oh, I guess you forgot that without Fox News cheering them on, nobody would have known about a few folks getting together.


    Duh, I guess they are for mom and apple pie, too. Nice. BTW show me the party or group that believes in unbalanced unitelligent government spending.

    Now there is an issue here. A lot of Tea Partiers hate public education. They don't want folks to have the government pay for the healthcare of those not wealthy or healthy enough to buy their own. I bet you find strong support among Tea Partiers for the Patriot Act and the wars in Afghanistan. Certainly they were almost unanimous in supporting Bush on the second war on Iraq.


    Duh. I suppose you actually believe that only they "love their country" or apple pie and mom, too?


    Oh, you also forgot to add that they believe it is great to have a few billionaires more or less completely finance their party and candidates of choice, all of whom are GOPers. Look at their local bud Ted Cruz.
     
  14. thadeus

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    thumbs, I'm sorry, but the things you're saying simply aren't true. There's really no way around it .... they're just not true.
     
  15. mc mark

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    In the Tea Party world they most certainly are true evil, liberal trash.
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Actually Obama isn't about building an bureaucracy driven state. His health care reform is all about creating a free market for health insurance to increase competition. He is all about subsidizing private industry. And he is working to privatize NASA. He's just balanced. As am I.

    I want the people in America to own this country. Not the rich and not big fat corporations that can influence elections with billions of dollars and pushing half-truths. I don't want Rupert Murdoch - a foreigner - being able to manipulate u.s. elections by having his own propaganda channel in Fox News.

    I fear too much in either direction. Too much socialism, and too much capitalism. Either is asking for trouble. Gov't is inefficient, and has its issues. But it is also the representatives of the people. The population at large. And to completely cut off gov't balls is to cut off the people's balls as well. And that's not good for our country's long term health.

    Oh, by the way, people do tend to become more conservative as they age, but today's youth aren't nearly as conservative as the generation prior to them were even at their age.

    And...it's mostly minorities. And Republicans ain't popular with most minorities groups.
     
  17. Nook

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    #1 No, the tea party is not as different and diverse as the American people... and that is fine, because the tea party is obviously representative of a group of American citizens that felt under represented. However, the hyperbole that they are different and diverse is not entirely true.

    #2 No, the media depiction of the tea party and members is not innaccurate. It is overwhelmingly white, religious and old. The same way the OWS movement is overwhelmingly made up of people under 40.

    #3 You list a lot of empty buzz words. The tee party is about keeping the government out of citizens lives when it is self serving. Many tea party members still are not in favor marriage rights etc.

    #4 I love the "love of country" hyperbole... as if other groups do not love their country. A majority of soldiers fighting and dying are not affiliated with the tea party, do they not love their country?
     
  18. thumbs

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    Politics is nothing but buzz words and sloganeering. Hope and change. Give me a break ... although I do hope for a change (at the top).
     
  19. Batman Jones

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    I think "inane" is the fanciest word you know. You trot it out every time you start looking especially dumb and want to try to convince us you're smart. It doesn't work. In fact, it's inane.
     
  20. thumbs

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    "Stupid" is such a vile word. Inane is a much more humane word but with the correct connotation. BTW, I don't regard myself as "smart" although I admit I apparently have a more extensive vocabulary than most of the posters here. If I were smart, I wouldn't be posting here.:)
     

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