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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. da_juice

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    Pierce wrote the Turner diaries, which inspired McVeigh. Yet, no one pursued him.

    Aside from the double standard and legal standpoint, it's not a solid policy to continue to fight terrorism with the ideology of fighting a traditonal war.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Ah yes, the Turner diaries. I remember. Like I said, I don't think he joined or belonged to a group that was militarily striking at the U.S. which Awlaki had done. A confirmation from Al Qaeda itself came after his death.

    I agree that fighting terrorism should be carried out differently than fighting a traditional war, but I also believe that enemy combatants who join Al-Qaeda while they are engaged in military combat with the U.S. are subject to being attacked by the U.S. military. I don't think that in itself is an expansion of executive power and has been pretty standard.

    I'm totally against assassinating U.S. citizens, unless they are actively belonging to a group which makes violent military strikes against the U.S. and promises to continue to do so.
     
  3. mc mark

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    Gingrich to endorse Romney today

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  4. mc mark

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    "Hype and Blame"

    That's it? That's the Romney slogan for 2012?

    really?
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    You are ignoring the fact that was a Congressional Authorization of Force against Al Qaeda which is the equivalent of a declaration of war. To my knowledge no such authorization was made against Pierce and his organization.
     
  6. mc mark

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    Rick Santorum’s 10 Best Hits On Mitt Romney

    1. LIAR: “If [Romney's health care] policy is bad, the policy is bad. And a bad policy is one thing. But lying to the American people is something else.” [National Journal]

    2. “ULTIMATE FLIP-FLOPPER”: “He glosses over and doesn’t even tell the truth. … Here is a guy who is the ultimate flip-flopper running for president, and he’s attacking me for not being principled? That doesn’t wash.” [Examiner]

    3. ETCH A SKETCH CANDIDATE: “One of Governor Romney’s aides today on television said that Governor Romney, after he wins the primaries, will be like an [Etch A Sketch] — you take whatever he said and you can shake it up and it will be gone, and he’s going to draw a whole new picture for the general election.” [Washington Post]

    4. MIGHT AS WELL RE-ELECT OBAMA: “You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there. If they’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk of what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate for the future.” [AP]

    5. OBAMACARE: “He created the blueprint for Obamacare and advocated for exactly what Obamacare is, which is a mandated health insurance program…it is exactly the Massachusetts health care plan. …He is uniquely disqualified.” [MSNBC]

    6. “WORST REPUBLICAN IN THE COUNTRY”: “Pick any other Republican in the country. He is the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama.” [NBC]

    7. “WEAK CANDIDATE”: “We can’t nominate such a weak candidate. I’d love to be able to get one-on-one with Gov. Romney and expose the record that would be the weakest record we could possibly put up against Barack Obama.” [Huffington Post]

    8. “WALL STREET FINANCIER”: “I heard Governor Romney here called me an economic lightweight because I wasn’t a Wall Street financier like he was. Do you really believe this country wants to elect a Wall Street financier as the president of the United States? Do you think that’s the experience that we need? Someone who’s going to take and look after as he did his friends on Wall Street and bail them out at the expense of Main Street America.” [ABC]

    9. BUSINESS EXPERIENCE DOESN’T MATTER: “Running a business is not the same as being president of the United States.” [CNN]

    10. BAILOUT HYPOCRISY: “Governor Romney supported the bailout of Wall Street and decided not to support the bailout of Detroit. [AP]
     
  8. RedRedemption

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    Yeah there are interviews of him openly criticizing the bailout of Detroit. He's a ****ing tool.
     
  9. mc mark

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    This is beautiful!

    via TPM --

    RNC: Romney ‘Still Deciding’ His Position On Immigration

    The RNC’s Hispanic Outreach Director Bettina Inclan said at a pen and pad session with reporters Tuesday that she cannot comment on Mitt Romney’s position on immigration because she doesn’t know what it is.

    “As a candidate, to my understanding, that he’s still deciding what his position on immigration is. So I can’t talk about what his prosposal’s going to be because I don’t know what Romney, exactly, he’s talked about different issues,” Inclan said. “I can’t talk about something that I don’t know what the position is.”

    UPDATE: and this twas just tweeted a few minutes ago

    Bettina Inclan @BettinaInclan

    I misspoke, Romney's position on immigration is clear mi.tt/KiMi3x
     
  10. geeimsobored

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  11. CCorn

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    If Rubio is his running mate, it'll change his stance. I really like what Rubio is pushing for on the Dream Act.
     
  12. mc mark

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    His own party says his plan will never happen
     
  13. CCorn

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    Well if they want a chance at winning they need to try and lure the hispanic voters.
     
  14. mc mark

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    Agree

    But that boat has kinda sailed for republicans
     
  15. tallanvor

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  16. Granville

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    It worked for Obama in 2008.
     
  17. mc mark

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    They're going about it in a funny way. You're supposed to romance someone before you **** them.
     
  19. Nook

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    Let's not go overboard and call it a selfless job.
     
  20. mc mark

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    Great Picture of the Prez yesterday in Seattle.

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