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2012 MLB Draft

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Jun 14, 2011.

  1. Rockets12

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    No way we could afford 1.8 mil
     
  2. LonghornFan

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    Dude, have you seen our GM? He has black glasses and carries BALLS in his hands! Do Not underestimate our Darth Lord.
     
  3. No Worries

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    Tough HS signs

    1s. RHP Lance McCullers Jr. (Florida) (top 10 in round one talent)
    4. 3B Rio Ruiz (USC) (top 10 in round one talent)
    6. OF Brett Phillips (NC State) (round four talent)
    11. LHP Hunter Virant (UCLA) (end of round one talent)
    26. SS C.J. Hinojosa (Texas) (top 10 in round one talent)
    39. RHP Mitchell Traver (TCU) (round one talent)

    On the three early-round HS picks, 1-41 Lance McCullers, 4-129 Rio Ruiz, and 11-339 Hunter Virant, Bobby Heck says:
    "We'll be challenged, but we feel confident we'll be able to sign them. I think the biggest thing is we view them as first-round talent."


    I am finding it hard to believe that the Astros have enough scratch to get either Hinojosa or Traver. Maybe Plan B, if Virant does not sign.
     
  4. No Worries

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    2012 Draft Preview -- Hunter Virant

    Baseball America has Virant ranked #53 in their top 500 list.

    Keith Law has Virant ranked #26 on his list.

    John Sickels has Virant ranked #44 on his top 100 list.

    Frankie Piliere has Virant ranked #39 on his top 100 list.

    Virant has a commitment to UCLA, and the consensus seems to be that if he doesn't go by the end of the supplemental first round -- or get paid an amount consistent with that level of pick -- he will pitch at UCLA, where he potentially would join Lucas Giolito, another UCLA commit who is viewed as a tough sign.


    2012 MLB Draft Slot Values

    Pick #26 - $1,700,000
    Pick #39 - $1,324,800
    Pick #44 - $1,165,800
    Pick #53 - $954,800
    Pick #60 - $857,200 (end of the supplemental first round)

    If the consensus is correct, Virant should sign for $857,200.
     
  5. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
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    Another signing to report...

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523Astros">#Astros</a> signed 13th-rder Brian Holmes, Wake Forest LHP, for $100k. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523mlbdraft">#mlbdraft</a></p>&mdash; Jim Callis (@jimcallisBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/210933081715130369" data-datetime="2012-06-08T03:15:40+00:00">June 8, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    1. Carlos Correa, SS, Puerto Rico Baseball Academy (committed to Miami)
    1 Supp. Lance McCullers, RHP, Jesuit HS, Tampa (Florida)
    2. Nolan Fontana, SS, Florida
    3. Brady Rodgers, RHP, Arizona State (JR)
    4. Rio Ruiz, 3B, Bishop Amat HS, La Puente, California (USC)
    5. Andrew Aplin, CF, Arizona State (JR)
    6. Brett Phillips, CF, Seminole HS, Seminole, Florida (NC State)
    7. Preston Tucker, LF, Florida
    8. Tyler Heineman, C, UCLA (JR)
    9. Dan Minor, RHP, Texas A&M- Corpus Christi (JR)
    10. Joe Bircher, LHP, Bradley
    11. Hunter Virant, LHP, Adolfo Camarillo HS, Camarillo, California (UCLA)
    12. Terrell Joyce, LF, Florida State College (JUCO SOPH) (committed to Virginia Tech)
    13. Brian Holmes, LHP, Wake Forest (JR)
    14. Joe Sclafani, SS, Dartmouth (JR)
    15. Erick Gonzalez, Gateway CC, Phoenix, Arizona (JUCO SOPH)
    16. Dan Gulbransen, LF, Jacksonville U (JR)
    17. Aaron West, RHP, Washington
    18. Ricky Gingras, C, Point Loma Nazarene (JR)
    19. Austin Elkins, 2B, Dallas Baptist (JR)
    20. Michael Clark, LHP, Kent State (JR)
    21. Marc Wik, CF, Chabot College (California) (JUCO SOPH)
    22. Kenny Long, LHP, Illinois State (5th-yr SR)
    23. Travis Ballew, RHP, Texas State (JR)
    24. Pat Blair, SS, Wake Forest (JR)
    25. Ryan Dineen, SS, Eastern Illinois (JR)
    26. C.J. Hinojosa, SS, Klein Collins HS (Texas)
    27. Tanner Mathis, CF, Ole Miss (JR)
    28. Angel Ibanez, 3B, Texas-Pan American (JR)
    29. Christian Garcia, RHP, Florence-Darlington Technical College (JUCO SOPH)
    30. John Neely, RHP, Texas Tech
    31. Michael "M.P." Cokinos, C, St. Mary's University (Texas) (JR)
    32. Tyler Manez, LHP, Plainedge HS, North Massapequa, NY (Elon)
    33. Mike Hauschild, RHP, Dayton
    34. Jordan "J.J." Jankowski, RHP, Catawba College
    35. Jimmy Sinatro, C, Skyline HS, Sammamish, Washington (Gonzaga)
    36. Michael Martinez, 1B, Florida International
    37. Michael Dimock, RHP, Wake Forest
    38. Zach Remillard, 3B, La Salle Institute, Troy, NY (Coastal Carolina)
    39. Mitchell Traver, RHP, Houston Christian HS (TCU)
    40. Joe Shaw, RHP, Ennis HS, Ennis, Texas (Dallas Baptist)
     
  6. Rockets12

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    Was that a response to me? Lol I hope he can sign him but I just don't think 1.8 mil is reasonable. We have correa for 4.8, McCullers would most likely take 2.4, and Ruiz would get around 1.5 mil. We still have to sign Fontana, we don't know how much Rodgers got, Phillips might get a but overslot, I doubt we afford 1.8mil. The most I see him getting is around 1 million
     
  7. Rockets12

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    That is a figure we could afford, I think he signs for a bit more maybe 900K which seems reasonable.
     
  8. Scolalist

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    If you can catch the signing bonus over/under slot
     
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    On Cj Hinojosa's Twitter, talking to Lance McCullers...

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet tw-align-right" data-in-reply-to="210852790979919873" width="350"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/LMcCullers_23">LMcCullers_23</a> can't wait man! Heard you just killed it this year man! Congrats on all your awards that sick! Shii we could be fellow#Astros</p>&mdash; Cj Hinojosa (@Cj_Hinojosa) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cj_Hinojosa/status/210853230261977089" data-datetime="2012-06-07T21:58:22+00:00">June 7, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  10. CJLarson

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    ^^^ Loving it!
     
  11. rocks_fan

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    Yes you should guys. Yes you should.
     
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    Very pleased with the potential this draft class has.

    Maybe the Rockets should take some advice from the current Stros management (Luhnow) on how to rebuild. Granted the situations are different, but I currently have more faith in the Astros future than the Rockets. Good on one side, but so sad on the other...
     
  13. rezdawg

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    That twitter exchange between Lance and CJ makes me want to giggle like a 12 year old girl scout.
     
  14. MadMax

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    i just beat you to it.

    loving the updates in this thread...good job by everyone here! it's much appreciated!
     
  15. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Apples and ****ing big ass oranges. Morey loves the idea of player development. Why do you think he sends players to the D-league? If Morey had 40 draft picks every year and could get them in the minor league, he'd do just as good a job.
     
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  16. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Thank you.
     
  17. Nick

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    On the flip side of that, if the Rockets were commited to rebulding... and had as horrible a season as the Astros had and ended up with the #1 pick... it would certainly help turn around their future fortunes just as the Astros feel its turned around theirs.

    There's no doubt Morey could develop/find diamonds in the rough just as well as anybody... but having the #1 pick (or any high draft pick) goes a loong way in the NBA... much more so than any other sport.
     
  18. Rocketman95

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    Of course, in one league a team has a 100% chance to get the #1 pick if they have the worst record whereas the other, the team with the worst record only has a 25% chance.
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Faceplam.

    People just need to stop trying to compare GMs from different sports. The NBA is the hardest League to draft and develop players in. 2 rounds and a 15 man roster.
     
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