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2012 GOP Presidential Primary

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. basso

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  2. Anticope

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    Basso, with this post above I assume that you are implying that Obama will be competing to be the GOP candidate in 2012? That would be interesting.
     
  3. mc mark

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    the guy who seriously scares me and he is not in the discussion is scott brown
     
  5. bnb

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    i guess they don't *have* to declare until the Fall? Not sure there's a huge advantage to declaring early in these days of instant media and behind the scenes fundraising.

    The celebrity candidates should start rumbling about in the Summer -- Giuliani; Thompson (remember him?); Trump (would be the highest rated debates -- EVER; VP selected through Presidential Apprentice reality show); Brett Favre, Chad Ochocinco, Charles Barkley etc.
     
  6. Major

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    He could win a general election - maybe even in dominant fashion - but the reason for that is the reason he can't win a primary. The tea party hates him, he's open to at least some compromise, he's pro-choice, etc. In other words, he's a Massachusetts Republican.
     
  7. toby

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    cough . . . mitt . . . cough
     
  8. mc mark

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    Too bad, I was looking forward to reading all his quotes in the voice of Foghorn Leghorn.
     
  10. rimrocker

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    Foghorn Leghorn on Barbour:

     
  11. A_3PO

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    No "fire in the belly". Yeah right.

    More like no chance to win and he knew it.
     
  12. leroy

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    Smartest thing he could do. It seems like there would have been many skeletons in that closet...

    Though this reason alone makes it a bit disappointing that he's not running. Would have been comedy gold.
     
  13. mc mark

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    beautiful!

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    Republicans Discover That Life Sucks


    That sucking sound you've been hearing is Republican presidential hopefuls going down the drain. Professional strength Liquid Plumber couldn't help now.

    Forget October, we just had the May Surprise. And what a surprise, a full 20 months before the 2012 election. No cynical, political manipulation needed, raising terror levels to scare Americans. Only a slow, methodical, effective military operation. To cheer them.

    Killing Osama bin Laden. Talk about a real Mission Accomplished.

    The happiest politician in America right now is Mike Huckabee. "Thank God I've been waffling," he's thinking, "and not announced yet I was running."

    Mitt Romney has been reduced now to a liberal healthcare plan he keeps backing away from.

    Sarah Palin wasn't likely going to announce, but that uncertainty which fueled curiosity in her has suddenly evaporated. After all, resigning as Alaska governor halfway through her first term seems all the more small, empty and pathetic now.

    Tim Pawlenty is still around, but if people had a hard time spotting him before, imagine how hidden his gravitas seems at this point.

    Michele Bachmann's non-existent chances had already become radioactive the day Barack Obama released his birth certificate. Now, she's a Black Hole, threatening to implode the Republican Party if any part of it touches her.

    Ron Paul may run, but... well, that's like saying Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader may run.

    There are other potential Republican candidates, of course, but the smart and capable ones didn't become smart and capable by jumping off precipices without a parachute. So, that leaves the not smart and incapable ones.

    Do Republicans have issues to run on? Republicans had issues before this and were well-behind in all the polls.

    The thing is, while most people think the GOP was dealt a crushing blow with the Obama leadership tracking down and killing Osama bin Laden, the problem for Republican presidential hopes is worse than that.

    You see, this wasn't just a May Surprise. This was like Muhammad Ali's "Rope-a-Dope" against George Foreman. Lulling a powerful opponent into a false sense of superiority by letting them pound, pound, pound you, all the while knowing that they were exhausting themselves -- and then your unleashing a flurry of blows against a now-defenseless adversary who crumbles to the canvas.

    Consider:

    For 2-1/2 years, the lunatic "Birther Movement" was the remaining gasp of the Republican base to confuse the confuseable. There was no birth certificate, so maybe he was a Muslim Kenyan, after all. Yes, it made Birthers and their political leaders look nuts, but as the old Hollywood cliché went, "Y'know, it's crazy... but it just -- might -- work!"

    And then, last Wednesday, President Barack Obama had the State of Hawaii release his birth certificate. Ending the issue in one, swift, devastating blow. Over. Done. Goodbye. Worse, it tarnished the Birther leaders themselves.

    Then, just two days later, on Friday, the president compassionately toured storm-devastated Alabama, promising quick federal help. Showing how critical federal assistance actually is for providing help to Americans in medical and social need.

    The very next day, Saturday, there was more. President Obama again, at the White House Correspondents Dinner, presenting jokes at his own expense, while listening with a warm smile to jokes delivered at him. Letting Americans see what an ingratiating, self-effacing person he is. Getting Americans to laugh with him, even in difficult times, when people need to laugh most.

    And then, of course, came Sunday, when President Barack Obama announced to the world that the #1 terrorist, Osama bin Laden, had been tracked down and killed. And all America rejoiced. Except maybe Rush Limbaugh who was still hoping for the Obama Administration to fail.

    But it's more than just this. Because Republicans still try to paint Mr. Obama as inexperienced, and passively reacting to events -- yet it turns out that killing bin Laden was an eight-month operation of meticulous planning. Showing that slow, patient, thoughtful actions are often the best, smartest way to do things, rather than swaggering on top of cars with a bullhorn or a flight deck papered with banners.

    And it's more than even that, too. Because comparison can't be avoided. Under George W. Bush, America allowed the worst attack on its soil ever, beyond even Pearl Harbor, and for seven years these self-professed "defense experts" couldn't find its mastermind. And yet after only 2-1/2 years, Barack Obama -- a man actually tough on terrorism and national security -- had the leadership to find, plan and kill that very man, Osama bin Laden.

    That's quite a streak of days. Yet none were the worst, all mere prelude to the most devastating blow Republicans faced in this Obama Flurry the very next day:

    Because following all that, on Monday, Barack Obama appeared with his wife Michelle, on Oprah.

    After releasing his birth certificate, after demonstrating the blessing of federal assistance, after warming the nation with his humor, after announcing the end of Osama bin Laden, the president and first lady topped off this remarkable six days by showing the personal grace of a man, a husband, a father and a leader, anointed by the Queen of America.

    You almost wonder why he took Thursday off.

    Meanwhile, Republicans are still trying to figure out who wants to run. This week, that question became "in which direction?"
     
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    haha

    unluckiest job??
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    no the unluckiest job in america is running for president as part of GOP 2012
     
  15. Dairy Ashford

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    I guess just for argument's sake I'll ask if there are any electoral similarities between post-Desert Storm Bush and Obama. Bush won the first war since Vietnam but had a recession; and then went back on "RML, NNT" to balance the budget, Obama has a deficit and still high unemployment. Could there be a GOP dark-horse like Clinton was in '92?
     
  16. IBTL

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    Yeah rush limbaugh was talking about this just on Monday.. he referred to an instance in israel where they got someone in a covert mission, then later that party lost in the election soon after.

    That said , there are always dark horse candidates. That was what Obama was.. right place , right time. Seems pretty clear Obama will win now unless there is something/someone the GOP can pull out of their rears not named palin. I 'm sure he is out there, just probably not in time for 2012.

    Right now from where I sit, it seems like it will be romney vs. obama and clearly that's a landslide for obama.
     
  17. rimrocker

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    Could be, but I tend to think of the GOP as more of an establishment oriented party and as such, I would guess it is more difficult for a darkhorse to come out of the GOP than the Democratic Party.
     
  18. rimrocker

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    Big GOP Presidential Primary Debate tomorrow in SC. It's Pawlenty, Johnson, Paul, Santorum, and Cain.

    My guess... Pawlenty falls flat and the crowd loves Johnson and Paul.
     
  19. Johndoe804

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    Ron Paul is the only Republican worth voting for.
     
  20. AXG

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    I hope Ron Paul gets the nod, but I doubt since he's not a "social conservative."
     

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