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2011 Conference Realignment

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by RocketManJosh, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. JayZ750

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    I agree with this. As a Big 12 fan, I think they'd be a nice add. It's not adding Florida, but it could fill out the bottom of the conference nicely, and does open up the new recruiting platform. They played TCU close, and didn't get completely dominated by Michigan (at least by college football domination standards).

    Plus, since I like college basketball a lot, they newly good Aztec basketball program would be a fun addition as well.
     
  2. RocketManJosh

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    You do realize that adding SDSU adds nothing to the conference in terms of revenue right? Thats $$$$ straight out of the other schools pockets.

    SDSU ranks about 18th in importance here in San Diego, right behind the recently defunct minor league hockey team, the Gulls.

    They cant even give away tickets ... Also, what happens when the Chargers move to LA. Not sure how long the Q will be maintained for a team that is lucky to get a basketball sized crowd.

    If you think SDSU is a good add, you are Nuts! My wife is an alum from there and she thinks you are nuts!
     
  3. Ziggy

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    Fans don't care about schools earning less revenue.
     
  4. RocketManJosh

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    I disagree ... More revenue means more money for better stadium ammenities, better facilities that generate better recruiting, and more money means the ability to get better coaches/assistant coaches. Fans may not directly care, but they certainly should indirectly care.
     
  5. Ziggy

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    Good point. I hope SDSU gets in then, screw the Big 12'ers.
     
  6. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    careful now, one of the ad's in the big 12 might tweet something about this post.

    “someone vandalized our bbs in houston. excrement inside and outside of the post plus vulgarities on the inside. classy.”
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    Sounds like we have a new forum description for the D&D.
     
  8. Rocketman95

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    and i can't even take credit for that any longer! :)
     
  9. Ziggy

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    Lol & lol.
     
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    Blame the BCS and inequity in college football.

    To lose AQ status is basically a death sentence now.
     
  13. MadMax

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    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars/52718156-88/byu-television-conference-league.html.csp

    Big 12’s television partners said no to BYU

    First published Oct 13 2011 06:06PM
    Updated 3 hours ago Updated Oct 14, 2011 10:35AM
    When TCU officially joined the Big 12 last week as the conference’s 10th member, it dashed the hopes of many BYU football fans who have dreamed for decades that their school will join a Bowl Championship Series conference.

    Why did the league do a sudden about-face, when for more than a month it was reportedly targeting BYU?

    Blame it on television. Specifically, the Big 12’s current TV partners — ABC/ESPN and Fox Sports Media Group.

    Although BYU’s flirtation with the Big 12 may yet be renewed at some point beyond next year, The Salt Lake Tribune has confirmed what the Tulsa World first reported on Oct. 7: Big 12 talks with BYU hit a snag last week and the league, at the behest of its television partners, quickly moved to invite TCU.

    “There is some rigidity at BYU in terms of what they will and won’t do,” Tulsa World columnist Dave Sittler wrote, quoting a Big 12 source. “Some of it has to do with [LDS Church] rules, and also the way they engage with media partners.”

    The Tribune has learned that the television partners had concerns with BYU’s no-play-on-Sunday policy and how it might impact television plans as they related to televising non-football sports on Sundays — particularly the Big 12 conference basketball tournament championship game. That game has not been played on Sunday since 2008, but the television partners wanted to retain the Sunday option.

    Additionally, BYU — which left the Mountain West Conference for more national television exposure as a football independent — apparently wanted assurances from the Big 12 that it would appear on national television a minimum, unspecified, number of times per season. The Cougars also were said to want permission to show their football games not picked up by Big 12 television partners on their own television network, BYUtv, which is available in more than 60 million homes nationwide.

    Making the equal-access promise, as well as the provisions for BYUtv, was problematic for the television partners.

    BYUtv is not a sports-only network like Texas’ new Longhorn Network, but it has a greater national reach. Meanwhile, TCU didn’t ask for any concessions related to television broadcasting.

    As has been their custom since Texas A&M announced it was leaving the Big 12 on Aug. 31 and BYU emerged as a possible replacement, school officials have remained mum on the matter, consistently referring to an Aug. 31 statement from the school that it is “excited about our relationship with ESPN as a football independent, and our affiliation with the West Coast Conference.” A request Thursday for a comment from BYU athletic director Tom Holmoe was declined.

    Several news outlets and websites that cover the Big 12 extensively have referenced sources in noting that BYU is currently off the league’s list, including Orangebloods.com, a site that covers the University of Texas and has broken many conference realignment stories in the past two years.

    BYU signed an eight-year agreement with ESPN last September when it announced its football independence for that network to televise its home football games, and Holmoe has repeatedly called ESPN a “partner” in BYU’s future plans. The ESPN deal allows BYUtv to televise at least one home BYU football game per season.

    Regardless of what happens long-term, it is certain that BYU will not be in the Big 12 next year. Interim commissioner Chuck Neinas said Missouri will remain in the league for the 2012-13 academic year whether it bolts or not for the Southeastern Conference. The primary question the league must answer when it gets an answer from Missouri is whether it wants 10 or 12 members beyond that year.

    The Big 12 is still getting paid under its current TV deal as if it still has 12 teams — even though Colorado and Nebraska are no longer in the league. As long as that happens, the conference may not be eager to expand beyond 10 schools because each school will continue to get a larger piece of the revenue pie than they would with 12 schools. The biggest reason for expanding to 12 members, of course, is to add a conference championship game in football and the additional revenue such a game would provide.

    drew@sltrib.com

    Twitter: @drewjay
     
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    ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton
    Latest realignment may have taken steam away from playoff, if everything falls into place. TCU in Big 12. Boise (and others) in Big East.

    ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton
    What legitimate BCS Buster won't be a member of an automatic bid conference? Looks like TCU and Boise will be accounted for. Houston, too.

    ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton
    If there's no outsider looking to crash the BCS party, why change the system? Well, there are plenty of reasons but a big one disappeared.

    ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton
    And to all the folks out there, I'm not slighting BYU or San Diego State or Memphis (that was funny). None is a TCU or Boise.
     
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    What's kind of funny is that it looks similar to C-USA at certain times with UH, Cincy, Louisville, South Florida, and then UCF and SMU. 6 former C-USA teams. I can't tell if the gold helmet is supposed to be Army of Navy. If it's Army then make it 7 former C-USA teams.
     
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