The SEC has had plenty of time to decide if they want Mizzou. Their dance didn't just start last week. Let's get on with it. I'm going to give Mizzou the same benefit of the doubt as A&M and believe their leadership is competent. If they want in, they already know at this point the SEC will say yes.
There are apparently a lot of disagreements within the SEC as to how/where to expand - West Virginia vs. Mizzou. Keep in mind - unlike A&M, Mizzou didn't choose to make this public; they were forced into it. They were content just waiting on the SEC, but then the Big12 decided to try to make long-term TV rights commitments. Mizzou couldn't do that being interested in the SEC, so they had no choice but to come public with the idea that they are looking at other conferences. Also remember that they've gone through route before. They started all of this mess last year by showing interest in the Big10, and later learned the Big10 wasn't interested in them.
ok, now this **** is getting real. utah state and sjsu to the mtn west? those were the road trips i was looking most forward to when wac play begins.
i was just commenting on the earlier article that was posted. if they do go big east, that still makes the big east the third-worst named conference.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/oct/10/sdsu-courting-big-12-membership/ SDSU courting the Big 12 for membership San Diego State has told representatives of the Big 12 Conference that it is interested in joining that league if the Big 12 wants to continue adding new members. Athletic Director Jim Sterk said he has passed information about SDSU and its television market to several Big 12 officials, including interim commissioner Chuck Neinas and Big 12 athletic directors. To join the Big 12, a school would need an invitation from the league’s board of directors. So far, the Big 12 has indicated to Sterk that it was “looking more east than west and staying in their footprint right now.” But Sterk said Big 12 officials also told him SDSU’s package was “good powerful information, well put together and that they would look at it as their realignment committee developed.” “We’ve been proactive as far as getting information out and just making sure their folks know what a valuable commodity San Diego State is,” Sterk said. “We’ve been able to show how well we capture the San Diego television market in the last couple of years and have a program that’s really on the rise and have a lot of things going for it. We’re a member of the Mountain West Conference, and we think it’s a very good conference. But if things realign, you never know how the sands are moving.” A call to Neinas was not immediately returned. The Aztecs’ expression of interest in the Big 12 comes as several conferences and schools jockey to enhance their positions in the shifting sands of conference realignment. On Monday, Texas Christian accepted an invitation to join the Big 12 next year, replacing Texas A&M, which is leaving for the Southeastern Conference. Though SDSU might not fit into the Big 12’s geographic footprint, geography is seldom a determining factor in the realignment craze. It’s mostly about leagues adding new television markets to increase revenue for all members. It’s also about survival. After losing Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the Atlantic Coast Conference, the Big East is down six football members and has had discussions about luring Air Force from the Mountain West. The Big East also might target Mountain West member Boise State. In SDSU’s case, it could give the Texas-centered Big 12 a new state and new market for recruiting and television viewership. While there has been talk that the Big 12 has been interested in adding Brigham Young, Sterk said he wanted to make sure the Big 12 was aware that San Diego is “as close to Austin (Texas) as Provo, Utah (home of BYU) and a heck of a lot easier to get to.” “If they look west, who knows what happens?” Sterk said. Any return interest from the Big 12 would depend on whether that league wants to expand from 10 members or whether current member Missouri decides to leave. Missouri recently said it would explore other conference options, which might include the SEC. “I think they are comfortable from what I hear at 10 with less mouths to feed right now (in revenue-sharing),” Sterk said. Sterk said he has been in communication with the Mountain West and thinks that league has “a chance to grow and develop.” But big money is at stake, which is why Utah, BYU and TCU left for greener pastures. In the Mountain West, members get about $1.4 million in TV money per year. In the Big 12, it’s around $14 million. And if Boise and Air Force leave, the Mountain West might have to consider inviting Utah State and San Jose State as part of an effort to survive. It might not matter, but Neinas had a previous relationship with SDSU. In 2005-06, SDSU paid him more than $65,000 to help conduct executive searches that ended with the hiring of football coach Chuck Long and previous Athletic Director Jeff Schemmel.
But if they do join, I'm sure you'll see plenty of people justifying why SDSU is a huge upgrade over Nebraska.
On my phone, so I won't copy and paste, but maybe espn is trying to kill the big east. http://t.co/pkcSpAqJ
I don't see it that way. I look at SDSU as the nerdy girl in school with potential. The Big 12 is the hot guy. They can start dating her and help her lose the glasses and let down her hair. In turn the Big 12 gets something, a recruiting platform, similar to getting help with homework... In the end they fall in love.
I'm hearing more and more that Mizzou is asking Big 12 members to transfer their media rights for 10 years instead of 6 to increase conference stability....my guess is that's where this is leading. Mizzou was the loudest early proponent of the grant of media rights, generally. Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/coll...159-5513-9720-f7ff23c8392c.html#ixzz1aZ5DGiHS Neinas says MU will stay in Big 12 The addition of Texas Christian to the Big 12 is evidence that the wobbly league is 'solidifying," interim commissioner Chuck Neinas said Tuesday, a point he hopes Mizzou embraces as it mulls a move to the Southeastern Conference. And to hear Neinas tell it, MU will be chewing on it for a time to come despite an undercurrent in Columbia that a decision will be known by next week. "If Missouri were going to change horses, it wouldn't be for 2012, anyway," he said in a teleconference. It's unclear what Neinas based that on, but it may be linked to exit fee considerations and posturing. Big 12 bylaws hold that a school will forfeit 90 percent of its conference revenue if it gives 6 to 12 months notice. The penalty drops incrementally down to 50 percent for "proper" two years' notice. In this case, waiting until the spring of 2012 to give notice of leaving in 2013 would only reduce the penalty to 80 percent (for 12 to 18 months notice) because the transition would likely have to begin by July 2013. According to a Mizzou document leaked Monday to The Associated Press, MU itself assessed the potential differences thusly: Leaving with more than six months notice would put MU at risk of forfeiting $25.9 million. With two years notice, it would drop to $10.4 million. It's unknown how MU arrived at those figures or how it projected what it could lose with 12 to 18 months notice. But precedent in the form of Nebraska's and Colorado's departures has indicated those fees can be negotiated down, and Colorado's initial stated intention to leave in two years ultimately was reconciled as a bad idea for all. Meanwhile, Neinas scoffed at the idea MU could make up to $12 million more a year in the SEC, as it suggested it could in the document leaked to the AP. He noted that would mean $168 million more annually for the SEC. The hatching of an anticipated SEC network, though, could explain Mizzou's reasoning. It's not clear what, if any, measures would induce MU to want to stay in the Big 12 in the wake of multiple actions it's taken in the last weeks that are consistent with a formula for clearing the way to go. It also remains unknown whether the SEC has made a final determination it would accept a Mizzou application, but MU's bold recent maneuvers seem to indicate a belief it has a landing place there as its 14th member. Mizzou last week authorized chancellor Brady Deaton to explore other options, Deaton has resigned as chairman of the board of the Big 12 and MU has abstained from key votes on adding TCU and signing off on grant of rights to enable equal revenue sharing on the conference network and cable packages. Neinas noted that MU had been a proponent of the grant of rights and said he wasn't aware if Mizzou had sought a longer term, as some believe MU wants. Asked if Mizzou had indicated it wanted revenue sharing on institutional platforms such as the Longhorn Network, again as is believed Mizzou desires, Neinas said there had been no discussion or argument on the topic from members. Although Neinas repeatedly said Missouri had no deadline other than the end of the academic year, the Big 12 apparently will be in a holding pattern until MU makes up its mind. Any further expansion, he said, won't be considered until Mizzou declares its intentions. Asked if he still intended to visit Columbia as initially planned, Neinas said communication with MU would be confidential. He also noted he had what he called a cordial conversation with SEC commissioner Mike Slive and asked him to give notice if he intends to invite Mizzou to join the league.
http://twitter.com/#!/ChipBrownOB "Sources tell http://Orangebloods.com #BYU is no longer a candidate to join the #Big12 because BYU wants to be independent."
Smart move by MU forcing the big boy's hands while they have leverage. Also smart move by BYU, they're a program that is more suited to be indy.
and in a week, we'll have a tweet saying that byu to the big xii should be announced shortly. these guys are like meterologists.
yeah, byu has been sooo on again/off again. it's changed hands like 5 times. i think some of that is BYU faithful who really very clearly wanted them to be part of the Big 12. they seem to be driving the discussion that way. but i heard from UT and BU people who felt like their joining was imminent at one point. apparently their demands were insane.
They'll get the same bowl if they're 6-5 that they would if they finish 10-1... no way they really want to stay indie.
It's not too surprising. They went independent because they don't need the money - they wanted power and independence. That fits with MM saying their demands were ridiculous. Their motivations are different from virtually every other school because they have plenty of funds from the Church.
