2011 Conference Realignment

I don't get it either. They are a great school in all aspects of collegiate academics and athletics.

 

I guess being tethered to KSU is kind of a drag, and also being in no-man's land in terms of geographic fit for any conference except the old Big 8 is also a bummer.

The Big 8 should never have taken the poison pill that was the SWC reformation.

 

Oh for sure. Nebraska regrets it everyday. Nebraska was in Texas's position in terms of owning the Big 8 and getting its way. It's only when Texas came along that things got bad. The conference offices moved from Kansas City to Dallas. Texas got its way on scholarship rules, tv deals, etc.. Nebraska lost control of its own conference and they certainly hold it against Texas. So its not a shocker why Nebraska left. And A&M was put off by Texas as well. The only Big 8 school that benefited from all of this was Oklahoma, who gained a lot of influence once Texas started running the show.

 

Texas certainly got it's way with the removal of partial qualifiers (what I assume you are referring to with the scholarship rules comment) but what do you mean when referring to the tv deals? Nebraska wanted unequal revenue sharing because they benefited! They voted for unequal revenue sharing every single time it was up for conference voting except for the last vote before they left. I never understood how Nebraska has somehow claimed the high road with regards to wanting equal revenue sharing.

 

We might not be understanding each other. The article cites that they want 120 million but if they have to, 80-85 will work. It doesn't say anything about naming rights being negotiated. There is really no telling when they can complete funding. Even then, contracts need to be let out, standard red tape and close to a complete reconstruction. There is no reason to take a team when they are 2-3 years away from a decent stadium.

I have seen them cite it has a temporary home and, like rice, I'm sure they would use it for games against Texas and OU that would sell out. With a hope of maybe averaging 40K fans, it doesn't seem like a realistic option in the long run financially. I'm sure with all the money they have raised for the new stadium that they are beyond the point of no return in that department.

I continue to say that winning is not the factor but it is a factor. TCU helps tremendously considering that they have been ranked in the top 5 more than once. This clearly indicates that both coaches and press feel they are a legit team despite their conference as they have tanked TCU against all other college football teams. It makes the big 12 looks more competitive. Adding a different team from Texas would have only made the big 12 stronger in the eyes of the fans of those particular schools. Don't dismiss the power of winning. Yes, it hasn't helped boise but that is an extreme example considering how awful a market that represents. Utah is a great example of a team that did very well in a new non bcs conference that brought a good market that have a 45K seat stadium.

The idea that UH gives a "bigger share" of Houston market seems, at best, a wash to the DAL/DFW market especially since the Metroplex has a higher population than the Houston metro area and since the TV market for DAL/FW is better than Houston. I really really don't think the value to the big 12 for TCU vs. any other school is close.

The reason I seem motivated against Houston is not because I don''t like the team. Before I went to UT, I went to a few UH games and I rooted for them. What bothers me is the feeling of entitlement that the UH fans have as to being included in a big conference. I continue to say, build your stadium and win your games. You say that other teams don't win but they get included. That is not an argument that is going to motivate a conference to include the school. It sounds like whining. No one cares that you have raised 3/4 of your stadium funding. They don't care because they are already building or have built their stuff.

If you build it (the stadium and the program) they will come.

 

So Ziggy my friend. How about those "near the top of the big 12" Aggies? Don't kick the conference on your way out. Don't hope that it collapses. Gracefully move on to greener pastures.

 

I should have been more detailed. I absolutely think they can be at the top at the end... if they win games. The original point was not to say any team is near the top when no games have been played. 2-2 clearly illustrates that. Why are you bringing BYU into this? At not point this season have I ever said anything about UT being a good team or being better than A&M this year. I have defended the program when it was described as a "down period" what it was just a season after a decade of success. This season is about doing our best and being encouraged with any progress for a young team.

 

(Oct 8)McMurphyCBS: From Kansas City's 810-AM: West Virginia president "wearing out Kansas State president begging to get in Big 12"

Memphis AD: "We would like to be in SEC. We think we deserve to be"

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/oct/10/sdsu-courting-big-12-membership/

 

The Big East is the big scuttlebutt right now. Trying to get to 12 members. I figured before this was all over it might become CUSA on steroids, and that's exactly what looks to be happening.

 

@McMurphyCBS:

Chuck Neinas: "We'll give Missouri time to evaluate its situation."

Chuck Neinas: "If Missouri going to change horses it won't be for 2012 anyway."

Chuck Neinas: "Can't determine 10 or 12, until Missouri gives its preference. That's my personal opinion. I work for people remember.

Chuck Neinas: "No consensus from conference members on going to 10 or 12 members."

Chuck Neinas on TCU playing Texas on Thanksgiving. "All likelihood that would not happen."

Chuck Neinas: "I don't believe it would stay at 9 (if Missouri leaves). The idea would be 10 or 12 teams. It won't be 16."

 

UT probably winds up playing itself on Thanksgiving in Arlington. If they get their way. Which they will. It'll be a LHN game though, so nobody will see it.

 

seriously, some needs to fire the funny 101 prof in aggyland.

 

UT-Austin vs. UT-Arlington vs. UT-El Paso vs. UT-San Antonio vs. UT-Pan American in a 5 way chinese checkers style football deathmatch.

 

Why does UT-Dallas always get left out?

 

No football team.

 

Any idea when Missouri will decide? I thoroughly enjoyed the A&M drama because of the intense emotions that exploded, but I want Mizzou to get it over with.

 

My read of this is that they want the SEC, but it's unclear if the SEC wants them - so I think they are simply waiting on the SEC to decide something or other.

 

Nope, no idea here. Maybe 'Cat knows something.

 

You can say a team is near the top when no games have been played. You absolutely can. Vegas does it. Coaches poll does it. Media does it. Publications do it.