Yoyo was telling us last night that Scola can't be packaged with any other Rockets player this summer.
From Feigen's twitter.... @Jonathan_Feigen: Rox GM Daryl Morey on FAs Luis Scola and Kyle Lowry. "They're going to be back. Mr. Alexander said 'you've got all the resources.'" #hounews Dam good to hear again....
I am excited about this offseason. We have so many assets and so much potential for next year to be a deep playoff team, October can't come soon enough.. Ready for the
Nice dream prediction but there is no way Camby comes here. He has it made out very well so far in Portland and they are going to try everything to keep him and possibly dump Prizbilla. Also if we are fortunate enough for Bosh to WANT to come here and accept the deal, We will almost certainly have to give up a valuable piece or two. Not only do we have to knock them over with good cheap talent, but Bosh has to want to go here rather than go play with Wade or be the man in a large market like NY or Chicago. Alot of competition. My guess would be that we would have to give up Scola, Brooks, and a draft pick with us having to pick up a much more pricy Calderon from Toronto. The backup/future Center more than likely will have to come from this years draft unless we do score Bosh. Unless you want Eric Dampier or someone very similar, expect to pay a steep price for a free agent center who is probably just a one year rental. The future centers like Gasol/Hibbert are going to be locked up pretty good for the next few years. Hill is not a true center, but he can be the help we need in the post if he pans out over the summer with some lowpost 101 courses by C. Dawson. Honestly, I think you can expect one of two different options. Best Case/Dream Lineup PG: Lowry, Calderon SG: Martin, Budinger, Taylor SF: Ariza, Battier PF: Bosh, Hill C: Yao, Hayes, Veteran C Rental Probably Lineup (more of the same) PG: Brooks, Lowry SG: Martin, Budinger, Taylor SF: Ariza, Battier PF: Scola, Hill, C: Yao, Rookie C, Hayes
Toronto has Demarr Derozan, same position as Bud. Sonny Weems who seems to be devloped. The also have Turkolugo, etc... I would throw together Battier/Scola/Jeffries and 1st rounder to make it happen. This is more than enough for Bosh who could walk for nothing
Trade Ariza and #14 pick for Bargnani and M.Bellinelli or S.Weems. After watching Raps melting with Bargnani leading that team I don't think Raps looks Bargnani is a franchise or a very good cornerstone player, and I'm pretty sure they realize that they need to get tougher. I really like Ariza, I'm sure he will get better with his offense when Yao comes back but Bargnani is what we need right now and we still got Shane and Chase to play shooting forward position. Bargnani is a very good option for us; he is a very good complement Yao in our frontcourt with his shooting and shot blocking. He can play center while Yao in bench, we can reduce Yao's minutes to approx. 25 mins. Brooks/Lowry KevMart/Belinelli(Weems) Shane/Chase Scola/Bargnani Yao/Hayes(or camby with MLE will be superior)
Hell No to Bargnani! He is way too soft, even softer than Dirk! We need a player from the Raptors, but not him. I say package Battier, Jeffries, Budinger and Hill for Bosh. Then use the MLE for Miller or Camby. Brooks/Lowry Martin/Taylor Ariza/Miller Bosh/Scola Yao/Hayes Ariza/
Like a poster pointed out earlier, Scola can't be dealt in a package. I don't think they'll take Jeffries horrible contract either.
Sign and trade means Bosh gets signed before the trade -- probably to a max contract. Do the salaries of Hill/Jeffries/Anderson/Taylor even come CLOSE to matching that? Not to mention the "and fillers" on top of it.
Ok, but i say keep the 1st rounder and give them Jermaine Taylor. Use that pick to get a young center. The Rockets are in good position to get a good quality back-up for Yao. If they were to keep their pick they would draft 1 of the four guys here( Whiteside, Motiejunas, Vesely, or Alabi). All of which imo would partner well with Yao, Bosh, Hill and the others.
Yea I know Bargs is soft but he has lenght and shotblocking which we need in defense. We don't need just one dimensional defensive players, you say you want Bosh but he is not tougher then Bargs. We played very good defense until this year because we know how to play TEAM defense. Only good defensive players doesnt make a team very good in defense. Yao is not a good 1-o-1 defender but his impact to Rockets defense is so much. Because he is a block thread in lane. Now we need a good shooter, scorer and shotblocker to play with Yao if we want to be contender. Ofcourse I would take Bosh instead of Bargs but it will be very hard to acquire him, I think Bargs value came down to earth and he has the 3 thing which we most need in our frontcourt. Shotblocking, shooting and LENGTH. I'm very confident that if Bargs come here our defense will be like last year, i'm not insisting on just Barg it can be anyone who has length, blocking threat and good shoot/scoring threat.
7 million for Jeffries 2.5 million for Jordan Hill .8 million for Taylor 2.5 million for David Anderson Bosh would make 16-20 million i would assume his first year on his contract. So no...they do not match...but If we added Ariza or Battier to that it would make things interesting. Battier makes 7.3 million next year and Ariza makes 6.3 million and I think Morey would be more willing to let go Battier instead of Ariza.
No, Amare would most likely slap you in the face for comparing him to TMac. Someone he doesn't seem to be very fond of in the first place. He came back from TWO microfracture knees. I don't think that's lazy. Also I guess Yao is lazy too, how many rebounds does he average again? The reason he's on the trading block is because the Suns think he's going to leave, so in order to get something back in return, they need to trade him. It's that simple.
If I remember Bima's thread correctly, Bosh will make around 16 million in his first year and so we will need to get around 13 million for it to work. I would say something like this would work... Bosh for Battier - 7.3 million, Hill -2.67, Andersen - 2.5 million and Udoh(14th pick) -1.5 million and one of the Knicks draft picks should get it done.
Heres a link of upcoming free agents this offseason http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-10-11 A few centers i wouldnt mind if we cannot get Camby 1) Brad Miller- Knows Adelmans system, he would be great with our second group 2) Jermaine O'Neal- Coming off a decent season, 13 ppg, 6 rbs, 1.4 blks what we need 3) Branden Haywood- He probably would be hella expensive, wouldnt want to be a back up 4) Shaq- Think this is a sleeper but you never know, him and Yao on the same team would be awesome they could both share the same amount of minutes
Yeah I wouldnt want to see Battier go but as everyone says, you gotta give something to get something. AND our defense would suck.
Rockets need to some how get danny granger, i rather have danny granger then bosh or amare. Scola is solid enough for us at the 4, and he plays almost EVERY GAME. people tend to forget how durable he is. i know if we actually do get granger our defense would be suspect, but i think granger could be a solid defender since the offense wouldnt be so forced on him so he could save some energy for when he plays D. To be honest, i think danny granger is the second comming of Tmac(hopefully with out all the injuries). All in all the SF needs the most help,i only see ariza as a legit 6 man and battier although i love him, he needs to go. Other points would be a legit back up center, like camby or Samuel Dalembert. Id rather have samuel cause hes younger and WAY less injury prone... camby is hurt almost every other game and sammy can play the 4 more effeciently than Camby if the rox want to use yao and Dalembert at the same time for more D and more height. Draft a SG to complement martin and were good for a deep play off run
When we exiled pippen, all we got was crap in return. I don't remember a sign and trade deal, where the team sending the resigned player, got a lot of value in return. So why do we have to give up Scola and brooks? That's a ransom on the raptors part. It should only take Ariza, jeffries, hill, and one of those picks from the knicks to get Bosh. I'm going to go and read Dr. Bima's thread again.
