trade brooks, scola, battier and new yorks pick next year for bosh and calderon. Then draft Xavier henry with this years pick. sign camby Calderon/Lowry Martin/Cbud/taylor Ariza/Henry Bosh/Hill Yao/camby
Toronto just got knocked out of the post season, Bosh is indeed pissed and lookin for some fresh air, we can simultaneously help the Craptors while screwing the Knicks. Things are already lookin up.
The reason the trade works for both sides is because the Rockets save money by trading Brooks for a much better PG in Curry who is locked up in his rookie contract for two more years than Brooks. Yao Scola Maggette Martin Curry
You think our D was bad this year? We'd have to score 120 ppg to win with that lineup. Also, please show me ONE team Maggette has actually helped. He plays zero D, doesn't even try, all he worries about is scoring. We have those already.
So the Rockets save money and get the better player? I don't see why the Warriors would do that proposed trade. If they were not going to trade Ellis for Oj Mayo and Thabeet, I don't see no way they would trade Curry unless it was for Bosh or some other sure perrennial all-star player.
I love the big guy but I just can't trust Yao so we need insurance. While Bosh should be the 1st option I REALLY think Morey should make EVERY effort to pry Marc Gasol from Memphis. Not sure what would get it done but i'd start with Ariza since I imagine they will lose Gay and a #1 pick either this year or 2012.
stromile swift bonzi wells derek anderson mike james ron artest rafer alston any of those would be wonderrrfullll :grin: :grin:
1.) Draft a backup big 2.) Buy some second rounders to develop overseas 3.) SnT for Bosh or Amare 4.) MLE to a highquality backup wing player (M.Miller or J.Childress imo) 5.) ??? 6.) Profit
Way too much for Bosh in a Sign and trade... If we can convince Bosh to want Houston. I think Jefferies, Battier, Hill and a first rounder should suffice. AB/Lowry Martin/Taylor Ariza/Cbud Bosh/Scola Yao/Camby
Good suggestion. Wow a realistic trade that addresses the other team's needs. I still am still shocked when people suggest that we are trading a point guard to toronto who has a ton of money tied into their two point guards already. Gasol is a beast. He is an ideal center to complement this team.
I understand that Jefferies and Battier have expiring contracts but expiring contracts aren't as valuable as they used to be. First of all, if a team is needing to dump payroll, why wouldn't they just not sign Bosh since his contract already expired and save themselves the trouble of paying Jefferies and Battier (two role players they dont need) a combined 13 million next year. There is absolutely no logic to that. Look at the past couple of years at the trade deadline where teams supposedly pull the trigger on expirings. Portland couldn't deal LaFrentz's contract last year and Sacramento couldnt deal Kenny Thomas' contract this year. I think people get skewed ideas from the once in a liftime deals like the Kwame-Gasol trade or the McGrady deal and assume that's the norm. The gasol deal was rigged by jerry west and morey had donnie walsh by the balls because he needed to get two max contracts in this past deal. It doesnt happen every time and nowadays whats more valuable than having a contract that expires in a year is actually having cap space now. The truth is if Bosh wants to sign (no sign and trade) elsewhere, toronto suddenly only has 45 million tied up contracts next year. This means they could become a player for a second tier free agent like a carlos boozer to give them way more production than a jordan hill would give them. Toronto is never going to cater to Bosh's request for a sign and trade unless they get something that is worth their time. (i.e. a power forward that can start now you know while hedo and jose are getting paid ridiculous money to play in their primes). Rebuilding for them makes absolutely no sense even if they do lose Bosh with the way their team is set up. And the Scola - Bosh deal is never going to happen either. For one, Scola is a free agent, why the hell would he sign a deal with us only to get traded to toronto. If he wanted to go to toronto, he could just sign there. Raises dont really matter because he's not a max guy. And really is Bosh worth 8-10 million per year more than Scola? I dont think he does that much more. 8 more points (while shooting 5 more shots per game), 2 more rebounds and maybe one more block. All this without changing effecting the defensive end one bit. And as far as leadership goes, what has he done in the playoffs. He couldnt even take his team there this year in the East. Its totally not worth it to waste that kind of money on him.
Those saying to trade Scola for Bosh have to realise that Bosh is a franchise player on a team that had a worse record than ours while playing in a weaker conference. And he makes 10 millions more than what Scola will be payed. Houston 42-40 Toronto 40-42 We would have made the PO in the east.
I like to look at players as skillsets and how a player will fit on THIS team, rather than look at what a player was asked to do on his OLD team. And if what a player brings to THIS team puts us over the top, then you sign him NO MATTER WHAT THE COST. If it doesn't, then salary becomes a factor. So let's analyze the prospective additions based on what they potentially add to this team while subtracting what we lose, rather than just looking at stats or his old team's win-loss record. Sometimes adding an apparently bad player (Lowry) (on a bad team, no less) is an upgrade while adding an apparently good player from a good team may be a downgrade.
You can't look at stats and just say that man. You're saying Monta Ellis is the same type of player Wade is? I mean Monta averages 1.1 less ppg, .8 rpg, Monta eve has the edge on steals! So is Monta on the Wade level just because of similar stats? Again with the playoffs, you are judging a guy who was about 23 those years he went to the playoffs. Could you name one other All-star he's had before this season? Yet you expected a guy under 25 to do what exactly in the playoffs? To be fair, Yao has done less his time here and at least Yao had another perennial All-star to work with. What did Garnett do without any talent? Gasol? They just rotted on bad teams. People like to blame superstars for lack of team success and forget that it is a team sport. Also Scola is not a Free Agent. He's Restricted, so he can't "Just go" to Toronto. Honestly I feel like anyone that doesn't think Bosh would be a significant upgrade over Scola is either a homer, or just doesn't see enough of Bosh play. Stats don't nearly tell the story bro. Dwight Howard averaged more points than Yao. Does that make him more of a offensive threat than Yao? Does it even give someone the right to say "Well he averages around the same, so he's in the same league offensively." No way in hell. Dwight can be singled and made in effective. You can't guard Yao one on one. You can front Yao, flop against him, and send some little annoying defender in his way...but playing him traditionally and the dude will destroy you. Also man stat wise. 24ppg is MUCH more than 16ppg. 8 points more is a HUGE difference. How many more games would we have won if we had 8 more points? Here are some guys who score 16ppg Scola Bargnani Landry Carter Terry R.Allen I did not include guys like Steve Nash and Stuckey, they are PGs so it works different for them. Especially Nash. Here are guys who score around 25 ppg. Bosh, Amare, Dirk, BRoy, Granger...coincidentally they all were voted into the ASG this year. You go up the list you see guys like Kobe at 27, Lebron at 29, Durant at 30. I mean Lebron only gets 5 more points than Bosh right? Thing is though, Bosh gets his points easily. Unlike Scola, Bosh has to be doubled or else he will most likely score on the guy. Add Yao and Martin around the guy and you have trouble, especially if you keep Brooks on the team.
Also incase anyone wanted to know. We would have won 12 more games if we had just 8 more points (the difference between Scola's and Bosh's PPG) 12 more games and we'd be the 6th seed in the west right now, playing Phoenix all without Yao. Add Yao to that mix and somehow keeping Brooks in this and you most likely (on paper) have a legit Elite team. So don't say 8 points is not a huge improvement, otherwise you're willing to say Ariza is only like 5 points behind Brooks...not much difference there.
i don't know if this a good thing but... bosh probably believes that if he was playing, they would have made it, prompting him to stay next year??
