Jefferson is better at the four but he can play the Center position. That's exactly what Morey is looking for. As for Hill, If he can get 16-22 minutes a night, he wouldn't be rotting away. He'll be getting perfect on the job training to develope his game.
LOL. I'm sure you wouldn't mind. Me either. But Kahn would probably slap you in the face and curse all your female family members if you ever presented that offer on the table.
Yeah, he would but there are two things you didn't consider 1) this is the same guy who picked johnny flynn over brandon jennings and 2)Daryl"the wizard" Morey would be the one arguing the deal. If anyone could convince Kahn to make that trade, it's him
Please, please, PLEASE don't use this sort of reasoning as an "end-around" to offer up ludicrous trade ideas. Every trade that Morey has made has benefitted the other team in some fashion. Even the Knicks deal gave the Knicks the most cap room of any team in the league, something for which they were desperately hoping. Using Morey's sharp trade acumen to justify proposing something truly ridiculous, in which the other team clearly loses in the talent department without reaping significant financial savings (the Wolves are in pretty decent financial shape) or significant future assets, is quite frankly irresponsible. No remotely rationale trade for Jefferson would involve a package that didn't include at least two out of Hill and the 2010-2012 picks. Please, for the sake of this BBS, keep proposed trades no less rationale than somewhere on the fringe of reasonableness.
Players are more likely to re-sign for the longer contract, and force a trade later on, than to accept less money just to get out of a bad situation. That or sign & trade. I just don't see the bigger names leaving money on the table no matter how much they say they want to win. It wouldn't surprise me if this Summer is one huge free agent fizzle with every player re-signing with their old teams.
With the emergance of Scola and the arrival of Hill, I don't think we need another PF so much as we need a backup center. Andersen is fine when we need to stretch the defense for Yao, but I'm talking about a first line center who can start if Yao has a setback. I like our rotational tandems, i.e. Brooks/Lowry; Martin/Taylor; Ariza/Budinger; Scola/Hill/Jeffries; Yao/Andersen. We definitely need to upgrade Taylor since he can't dribble left or pass, but Bud can take over both SG and SF backup minutes en route to becoming the starter at SF. Jeffries, because of his height and defensive prowess, is a far more valuable backup than Battier or Hayes. I believe Morey will use them as trade bait/filler to improve the SG position or C positions.
I like the idea of Andersen playing more of the 4 to help spread the floor with Yao. Unforetuantely, I went to training and missing the rest of the season where JHill started getting more time. How does he fare to playing center?
Man I'm so excited!, can't wait for the off-season negotiations to start, given we have the best negotiator of them all.... :grin: Spoiler --RB
i can i get a following for my proposed anderson for dwight howard trade, i mean theres actually more than one person on this bored that actually thinks chris paul can be had for brooks lmao, so to those i present anderson for dwight howard. i mean the magic already have their replacement in gortat and plus they get another big that can stretch the floor. so all u people that think chris paul can be had for brooks why cant howard be had for anderson.
Did you really just compare Aaron Brooks to David Andersen in your analogy? Sure, other people may claim that Brooks can turn into Paul. And you, even jokingly, suggest Andersen can turn into Howard? Can we keep some amount of reasonable expectations to our Free Agent and Off-season Trades posts? I am not one of the people claiming Brooks could yield us Chris Paul, though I do not see that as out of the realm of possibilities. However, I'd be happy to answer your question. It's safe to say that the Brooks for Paul idea is borderline realistic. But since Howard > Paul and Andersen < Brooks, your analogy is a fail.
After studying Bosh situation, this is what I think: - Indeed, Bosh will go wherever he wants to go. - It is almost certain that he won't continue in Toronto and will be traded to the team he chooses. - He wants 16.5 millions, the max. - He wants to go to a winner team. - He wants to play as PF, on a team that has prepared the place for him. Possible destinations: - I will consider that teams like the Knicks, the Nets or the Hornets have 0 options with him. They are not and won't be playoff teams. - The teams with chances, sorted from lowest to highest, are: Heat: This is of course assuming that Wade resigns. The problem with Miami is that they have little to offer. Beasley would be the main piece, but his attitude is questionable, and Toronto doesn't want another big man who plays away from the paint, they want an inside presence, either offensive or defensive. Miami has nothing more to offer, perhaps Joel Anthony and a draft pick, but you need fillers to reach the 16 millions. Spurs: San Antonio could consider to trade Tony Parker, given the improvement of Hill. Toronto has lacked a creative-incisive PG, since neither Jack nor Jose are players of that profile; the figure of Parker could fit well here. But there are questions about the brightness of the future of the franchise and Bosh may prefer other teams and cities... Bulls: Chicago could be a great destiny in the free agency, but as trade partner they have more disadvantages. Rose and Noah are untouchable pieces for them, so they could offer players like Luol Deng or Kirk Hinrich, long-term contracts. Hinrich could provide them some defense outside and Deng is a complete and solid SF, but again, they don't get any help inside and they already have a big contract for Deng position in Hedo. Thunder: We are coming to the three most likely destinations, in my opinion. The Thunder are currently an attractive franchise on the rise. Bosh fits great on the team and could form a great tandem with Durant for many years. They have interesting pieces for the Raptors in James Harden, Serge Ibaka or Jeff Green. And good fillers/expirings in Krstic and Collison. Inconvenients: there may be other even better places. Lakers: The Lakers have in his hands surely the most simple and attractive trade for the Raptors: Andrew Bynum. Already been rumors about talks between both teams this year, the questions here are on one hand, if the Lakers would do that trade; and on the other, if Chris Bosh is willing to go to a place with so many 'bombastic' players. He may still have his own aspirations and challenges of bringing a team to the top being a more focal piece. Rockets: Finally the destiny that I see as most likely for him for several reasons: - Great city, Texas, home. - Winner team/franchise, good future, nice and young project. - Great fit on the team, on the system. Automatically contenders with his arrival. Great duo next to Yao. Complementary to him. - Houston has all the resources to present a good trade. The draft picks (NY), the creative, young talented PG (Brooks), the young big man with potential (Hill), the immediate help in the paint (Scola), the glue guy who improves the collective strength and defense (Battier), the expirings (Battier, Jeffries)... Just a lot of options for Bryan Collangelo if Bosh chooses the Rockets alternative, and definitely a very good chance to start rebuilding.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/04/23/suns-stoudemire-talking-extension-again/ Suns, Stoudemire Talking Extension Again2 4/23/2010 6:40 PM ET By Sam Amick Sam Amick Senior NBA Writer PORTLAND, Ore. -- Leading up to the last two NBA trade deadlines, eight-year veteran forward Amar'e Stoudemire seemed destined to depart Phoenix. Suns executives frequently shopped him and at times appeared close to closing a sale. And even when a deal never went down, most expected this to be Stoudemire's final season in the Valley of the Sun. But according to sources with knowledge of the situation, Phoenix is now determined to keep the five-time All-Star and has offered a contract extension as recently as last week. While the terms of the offer are not known, a source close to the 27-year-old Stoudemire said of the proposal, "they're getting closer [financially] to where they should be." No agreement is expected anytime soon, however. Stoudemire -- who has made clear his opinion that he is worthy of a max contract or something close to it -- has until June 30 to decide whether he'll exercise the player option for next season worth $17.6 million on his deal, agree to an extension or become a free agent. His negotiating stance continues to get stronger, too, as he has gone from averaging 23.1 points and 8.9 rebounds while playing all 82 regular-season games to continuing his drastic image makeover by changing his game for the betterment of the team in the postseason. Share3Stoudemire -- so long accused of having a me-first mentality -- has faced endless double-teams from the Blazers and made them pay with his willingness to pass to open shooters. He is, believe it or not, defending better than most ever thought probable. He is more engaged with his teammates and coaches than ever, looking nothing like the wary youngster who kept his distance from others in the locker room earlier in his career. And as Suns general manager Steve Kerr sees it, the total package is one that he doesn't plan on letting get away. "We want to keep him," Kerr told FanHouse at Suns practice Friday. "I don't ever talk about specifics of contract negotiations, but I can tell you that we'd like to keep him. We're working on that, and we're hopeful that he's going to be here a long time." With Phoenix having gone 22-5 after the Feb. 18 trade deadline, the Suns' success bodes well both for Stoudemire's desire to return and his ability to be paid as he sees fit. Per the league's collective bargaining agreement, he can be offered no more than a three-year extension that would run through the 2013-14 season and be worth a combined $64.7 million. Stoudemire would still earn his $17.6 million next season, followed by 10.5 percent annual raises thereafter. Stoudemire could land more years and more money by joining the vaunted 2010 free agent market as well. What's certain is this: with every Suns win these playoffs, he continues to show his worth. "You always factor in your team's performance, and if you feel good about where you are as a team, then you're more likely to keep things together," he said. "And if things are breaking apart, then you're more likely to make a move to get better. "Obviously we've been on a great run here. We've got a nice mix of youth and experience. Amar'e has been a really good leader for our young guys this year, and I think that's a new dynamic for him." Stoudemire's agent, Happy Walters, acknowledged the talks as well. "We've been having ongoing discussions and talks for a while, but it's the playoffs," he told FanHouse by phone. "Everyone is trying to focus on that. The team is the most important thing." To follow Sam on Twitter, go to @samickFanHouse.
i hope scola signs a fat contract with someone else before we screw him and send him to toronto after he has layed his ass on the line for us the past 3 years. i know he would never do this but if they do send him to toronto i hope he holds out or goes back to europe. would that be possibly? i know he is a restricted free agent, but if he threatens going back to europe, could the rockets do anything about it? i assume not...
Bosh would be nice, but I would not want to give up all that much. He is not a superstar imo... 2011 after we have a few expire, Mellow is a free agent, so is Houston native Kendrick Perkins...
I doubt Toronto would take him if he didn't want to go there and Luis is about to hit the jackpot, so any attempts to portray him as a potential victim are far fetched. In truth, the Rockets have been very good to Luis. They gave him a chance to start. They gave him a nice contract. They coached him well, as his game has improved, and the staff should get some credit for that. Nope, if the Rockets work a sign & trade involving Luis, I don't think he'll feel any animosity towards the organization at all. They've helped him immensely, and he knows it.
Calm down, dude! Scola CANNOT be traded by the Rockets this summer without his consent. As a restricted free agent, he still has SOME rights. Among those rights is the right not to be signed and traded without his consent. Also, if Scola decides to sign an offer sheet with another team that the Rockets match, the Rockets cannot trade Scola AT ALL without his consent (and, in fact, cannot trade him to the team whose offer sheet he signed, regardless). Trust me, Scola isn't going to get "screwed" this summer, except with regard to how much money the Rockets give him. His team situation will be totally within his control.
