You have got to be kidding... 5-11 6-4 6-7 160 220 185 Unless we get Dwight Howard to play Power Forward, this line-up would only run out there If Don Nelson was coaching...
Eddy Curry was signed and traded from Chicago to the Knicks in a 6 year, 60 million dollar deal. Not quite max, but pretty close. It's actually not a bad deal template -- a large, expiring contract (Tim Thomas), a then promising big (Sweetney, 2 years removed from being 9th overall pick), a bit of a dead weight salary dump (Antonio Davis), a pick swap and an extra pick. Of course in New York's case, those picks turned into a #2 overall and a #9 overall, but I digress.
Nice example, NIKEstrad! I forgot what Chicago had gotten in return for Curry. Hopefully, Toronto will see how Chicago "got over" on New York in that sign-and-trade and would be more willing to take on the salary that comes attached to the treasure trove of young/future assets.
So... the 2010 equivalent of the Eddy Curry haul would be something like Expiring contracts + Jordan Hill + Rockets 2010 pick (assuming it's 14th overall) + the 2011 pick (of Rockets or Knicks). Not sure if they need to trade both Jeffries and Battier, but if they can somehow get away without giving up Battier (and do Jeffries + Andersen instead), they can coceivable add a star without giving up much of their regular rotation at all.
the great part of having such an aggressive front office is that they will do everything to get top notch talent on the team. and also we don`t have to have threads like this one because morey will draft a player and sign great free agents. time to go to bed.
The "dream scenario" trade package from a Rockets standpoint (IMHO) is the following: Jared Jeffries ($6.88M expiring contract) David Andersen ($2.5M in 2010-11; only $185k guaranteed in 2011-12) Jordan Hill ($2.67M; nice young big with which to rebuild) Mike Harris ($854,389 non-guaranteed deal) Alexander Johnson ($854,389 non-guaranteed deal) 2011 pick (higher of Rockets' or Knicks', LOTTERY PROTECTED) 2012 pick (lower of Rockets' or Knicks', TOP 8 OR 10 PROTECTED) Cash (probably $3M) If Colangelo was willing to take that package, I think I would wet myself with excitement. My guess is that Toronto would want much more, but the package above wouldn't be a bad starting point for Morey to offer up. I could see Budinger being thrown in. Likely the 2012 pick becomes the HIGHER of the Rockets' or Knicks' (probably with some protection). Perhaps the 2010 pick is substituted for Andersen (it'll be close, but I think the salary cap math might still work in that case based on 120% of the 14th pick's rookie scale salary). (BTW, I'm not so sure that the Rockets trade their 2010 pick for Bosh. Remember, the pick will be made by Morey, not Toronto. There is no guarantee that Colangelo will particularly like the guy who Morey picks. At least not as much as he might like the future picks (with less protection), since he could get HIS guy.)
I think with Camby signing with the Blazers limits what the Rockets were wanting to do. IMO, Camby would of been a great signing for Houston. He would be Deke number two.
The only real assets there are Hill, 2 1st-rounders, and cash. Jeffries' expiring isn't necessarily better than just letting Bosh walk, though they could keep him until February, then trade him for another piece. I guess Andersen, Harris, and Johnson are virtually expiring contracts, so they really aren't taking on salary, except for Jeffries and Andersen, for one year. Actually, I think Hill and two firsts is pretty significant for an unrestricted FA. If they aren't so appealing to Toronto, they can trade them to some team with a youth movement.
Yeah, that's my thinking at least. Hence, initially asking for protection on those picks in order to avoid a situation like New York faced in the Eddy Curry deal, where their future first round pick ended up being the #2 overall pick of the 2006 draft (which was used to take LaMarcus Aldridge)! For the Rockets, aside from Jordan Hill (who they likely wouldn't even need with Bosh, Scola and possibly even the 14th pick and Hayes) and the future picks with some reasonable level of protection, it would basically be a salary dump of Jeffries and Andersen. Hell, they could probably even re-sign Harris of Johnson later that summer! This is going to be one hell of an interesting summer!
IMHO, The Rockets should look at trading for Al Jefferson. In Morey I trust but I don't see us landing Bosh. I think we have assets to make Toronto think about it. I think we need to make our move during draft day rather than wait till July 1st. With Scola and Lowry being RFA, it's going to distract Morey on what he needs to do. Al Jefferson started off slow this season due to injury but he came on towards the end of the season. He still had great numbers at 17 and 9. The two seasons prior he was averaging 22 and 11. He can play at both PF and Center position. I think he would be a great fit along side Yao. He's due to make $13mil next season, $14Mil the following, and $15 Mil after that. The great thing about Minnesota is Kahn wants draft picks. He's trying to build his team like SA, OKC, and Portland. Kahn has gone on the record stating they need to get a SF, SG, and some bigs. We can offer our 2010 draft pick during draft night, maybe another draft pick, expiring contract, David Anderson, and Taylor. I'm sure they would want to add Budinger but I don't see that happening. Minny doesn't have any expiring contracts so they need a player that can be used in a package deal. No FA will just up and sign with Minny. That's why it's important for them to draft talent and trade for talent. I called on the Martin trade. Let's see if I can call it on this one.
They probably would ask for Hill also. This lineup doesn't look that bad: Brooks/Lowry Martin/Budinger Battier/Ariza Jefferson/Scola Yao/Jefferson
I wouldn't give up Hill. You need another young big on your team. The 2010 draft is loaded with bigs. Minny would be able to draft a big that they want. If they give up Hill, I wouldn't give anything that we did with NY.
I read somewhere that Kahn wants to at least get a near All-Star in exchange for Jefferson, preferably at the wing position. I think other teams could make better offers than the Rockets in that regard, especially since there's no way Morey gives up Kevin Martin in a package for Jefferson.
I don't think we're gettign Bosh or Amar'e as I don't think ethier will demand for SnTs. I see Amar'e going to NY or Miami or resigning with phoenix, I see Bosh doing the same(accept obviously bosh wouldn't sign with phoenix). As for Jefferson, I wouldn't mind giving up Jeffries, Andersen, Taylor, and maybe some cash and/or draft picks. But only if we sign or draft a backup for Yao. Jefferson is best served as a powerforward. Yao/???/Hill(maybe?) Jefferson/Scola/Hill Ariza/Battier Martin/Bud Brooks/Lowry Only probelm would be Hill. I don't want him rotting on the bench. It would be interesting how this group would function, especially since back in the days of my youth('06) I traded for Al Jefferson on NBA Live and had him as my starting PF with juwan howard as the 6th man.
Kahn isn't going to get that offer for Al. Sac said the same thing at first with Martin. Then they went on the record stating they weren't interested in trading for him. In the end, Kahn has to make a move this summer because Love and Jefferson don't work too well with each other. Kurt Rambis is looking to move forward with his triangle offense this season.
