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2010 NFL Draft Prospects

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. gucci888

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    Adam Schefter is reporting Bradford will get $50M guaranteed. A rookie cap is sorely needed IMO.

    Also, Dolphins traded Ted Ginn Jr. to 49ers for a 5th rounder today. I thought the 49ers could take Dez Bryant with one of their 1st rounders, I wonder how that changes things, if it does.
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    Wow, 50 mil... that is sick.

    Also, TGJ... who drafted that guy? Does he still have a job? Talk about crappy ROI.
     
  3. gucci888

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    The Dolphins drafted Ginn with the 9th overall pick, I remember laughing out loud when they announced the pick.
     
  4. Dubious

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    http://www.draftdaddy.com/MD/draft2010.htm

    I don't see much here to disagree with. He is making a judgment call on KC that could change things and it looks like Brandon Graham is the most fallen value. Trent Williams may be a little high.


    FIRST ROUND WITH COMMENTS


    BY MATT BITONTI

    THIS MOCK WILL NOT PROJECT TRADES

    LAST UPDATED: 04/15/10

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    01. St. Louis Rams - QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma

    There are far fewer quarterbacks than tackles in this draft; Bradford is the chalk pick.

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    02. Detroit Lions - DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska

    Suh can help the Lions entire squad: great defense leads to improved field position.

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    03.Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma

    McCoy has an explosive first step; he can pass-rush and make plays for the Bucs.

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    04.Washington Redskins - OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State

    Okung has the look of an instant starter, the Redskins still have no left tackles.

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    05. Kansas City Chiefs - DT Dan Williams, Tennessee

    Chiefs have proven they will select a player they need higher than value.

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    06. Seattle Seahawks - DB Eric Berry, Tennessee

    Seahawks need a leader on defense and Berry could be a special defender.

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    07. Cleveland Browns - DT Jared Odrick, Penn State

    Browns have a dire need at 5-tech defensive end, Odrick stock is rising.

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    08. Oakland Raiders - OT Trent Williams, Oklahoma

    Al Davis gets his tackle help and a fast 40-yard dash in one pick.

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    09. Buffalo Bills - OT Bryan Bulaga, Iowa

    Bills need to rebuild the offensive front, Bulaga is an outstanding technician.

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    10. Jacksonville Jaguars - LB Rolando McClain, Alabama

    Jaguars need someone to man the middle, McClain is a heady linebacker who leads.

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    11. Denver Broncos - C Maurkice Pouncey, Florida

    The Broncos most dire need at this point is center; might be a reach but McDaniels will reach.

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    12. Miami Dolphins - CB Earl Thomas, Texas

    Dolphins have a needs on defense, Thomas is a ball-hawk who can also work at safety.

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    13. San Francisco 49ers - CB Joe Haden, Florida

    Head Coach Mike Singletary wants the defense to take the ball away more, Haden can make plays.

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    14. Seattle Seahawks (VIA DEN) - RB C.J. Spiller, Clemson

    Seahawks have other needs but their offense is vanilla. Spiller is a high impact pick.

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    15. New York Giants - LB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri

    Giants like the swagger of "Spoon" and he projects well to 4-3 linebacker.

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    16. Tennessee Titans - DE Jason Pierre-Paul, South Florida

    Titans have a solid program for molding defensive line talent, JPP is raw but gifted.

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    17. San Francisco (VIA CAR) - OG Mike Iupati, Idaho

    49ers want to pound the football, Iupati is a mauler guard who could bump to right tackle.

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    18. Pittsburgh Steelers - CB Kyle Wilson, Boise State

    Wilson is an aggressive man-to-man corner who can run, jump, and tackle.

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    19. Atlanta Falcons - DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech

    Falcons require more pass rush, Morgan is an ideal 4-3 left defensive end from their back yard.

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    20. Houston Texans - RB Ryan Mathews, Fresno State

    All signs point to Mathews in Houston, he's a great all-around back who can help right away.

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    21. Cincinnati Bengals - TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma

    Bengals might be putting up a smoke screen but they seem to be targeting Gresham.

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    22. New England Patriots - LB Sergio Kindle, Texas

    Patriots need a rush linebacker, Kindle performed well in national championship game.

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    23. Green Bay Packers - DE Brandon Graham, Michigan

    Packers aren't getting enough pass rush, Graham is a sack-master.

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    24. Philadelphia Eagles - CB Devin McCourty, Rutgers

    Eagles aren't happy with Samuel and moved Brown, they look likely to reload at corner.

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    25. Baltimore Ravens - WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State

    Ozzie Newsome always finds value; one of last year's worst WR corp could be next year's best.

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    26. Arizona Cardinals - OT Charles Brown, Southern California

    Cards need a natural left tackle, Brown has amazing footwork and should start early.

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    27. Dallas Cowboys - OT Anthony Davis, Rutgers

    Cowboys need linemen, Davis was considered an elite pick early but still very good prospect.

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    28. San Diego Chargers - DT Terrence Cody, Alabama

    Chargers lose Jamal Williams and need to restock at nose tackle. Cody is underrated.

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    29. New York Jets - DB Taylor Mays, Southern California

    Jets don't have alot of holes; Mays is a big hitter and could be protected in Rex's 46 looks.

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    30. Minnesota Vikings - QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame

    Clausen could have a rough go of it on draft day. Vikings could stop the slide or trade down.

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    31. Indianapolis Colts - OLB Jerry Hughes, Texas Christian

    Colts don't have depth behind Freeney. Hughes is undersized and fast, Colts type of defender.

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    32. New Orleans Saints - DE Everson Griffen, Southern California

    With Charles Grant gone, Saints can develop Griffen as a pass rusher in their 4-3 defense.
     
  5. moestavern19

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    That would be Cam Cameron, who was 1 and done after that 1-15 debacle.

    He's over in Baltimore now running their offense.

    The man who justified the picking of a glorified punt returner at number 9 overall by assuring reporters he "comes from a good family".
     
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    From Adam Wexler's Twitter...

    @awexler: Falls in w/ what we've been saying, but we'll see RT @WesBunting: Hearing #Texans LOVE Kyle Wilson. Will take Ryan Mathews if he's not there
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    Seems like lots of teams release bogus info about their preferences to game the draft... taking that one with a grain of salt.
     
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    Hope your wrong if this is true....

    @MrMichael_Smith: One source told me "he's the closest thing to Revis in this draft" RT @Greg_A_Bedard: @YahooSportsNFL Wilson better cover guy than Haden
     
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    so more people think wilson is better than mccourty now? Just the other day, John McClain thinks mccourty is slightly better than wilson....
     
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    I think Wilson is consistently rated as the better CB, however, McCourty's stock has been rising pretty significantly where they could be #2A/2B in terms of CB rankings.

    But it's almost impossible to believe anything coming out of teams right now, it's all about smokescreens and leverage at this point.
     
  11. gucci888

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    KC has spent a #3 and #5 overall pick on their DL the past 2 years, I can't see them using another Top 5 on one, especially considering the talent available at LT and their need for one.

    Odrick to the Browns is a pretty bold pick as well, I think they'll take Haden if available.
     
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    Just the other day McClain was also saying he was going to go on a diet...

    You have to take everything he says with a grain, or in his case, several buckets of salt he sprinkles on those extra large orderS of fries
     
  13. moestavern19

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    I expect the Texans to draft Kyle Wilson if he's there.

    He is an impressive shut down corner, he'd instantly be the best CB on the Texans roster (not really saying much, but when you can add that kind of value, you need to pull the trigger).


    Matthews would be a great Plan B pick, I think he's the best runner in this draft, if they don't get him... Montario Hardesty is gonna make some noise wherever he lands, Texans would be wise to take a look at him in round 3 if he's there and they need a back still, he'd fit in with a ZBS team like a glove. He's around the 5th rated back on most mocks, which is because of his injury history.

    I think Spiller is a bit overrated, and I'm not big on Gerhart either. I think he'll have to deal with the fact that the NFL hasn't had a superstar RB who was white in like 25 years.
     
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    When the going gets tough, the tough get GOINGS!

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  15. Joe Joe

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    For the most part agree. I have Mathews slightly higher than Wilson as I think he really fits the offense. Mathews, Wilson, and Thomas are my wish list for the first pick in that order. If not them, I'm hoping for a trade down for one of the other corners.
     
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    There is no question that an elite cover corner is a pressing matter over a runner for Houston, which is the main reason I think they need to go Wilson provided that he is there.
     
  17. Joe Joe

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    Houston was 11th in Yrds/pass attempt last season on defense. That ain't bad considering the Texans played Indy twice and had a weak pass rush for half the year (Barwin and Smith played better in the second half of the season). Maybe you are of the opinion that Dunta was worth his deal.

    Houston was 31st in Yds/carry last season on offense. While this is also the fault of the interior line, the RBs didn't help. Losing Dunta does put the Texans in a precarious position of playing ome that sucks more, but so does having Rosenfels at RB. The Texans were 6th in coughing it up.
     
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    Everybody seems to clearly have Wilson listed as the #2 corner, but as much love as he seems to be getting leading up to the draft (i.e. better cover man than Haden - pretty important for a corner), I'm thinking it might be a situation where he is the first corner taken instead of Haden.

    People sometimes give the media "draft charts" a bit too much love as the final word in what order people are ranked by teams, IMO. Every year there are one or two very obvious flip flops over conventional wisdom.

    To wit, one of the Yahoo Sports NFL writers via twitter:

    [rquoter]
    Don't be shocked if Boise State's Kyle Wilson is the 1st cornerback drafted. His stock is up, & many teams like him over Florida's Joe Haden

    [/rquoter]

    Even if not, as much love as he's been receiving from all around, it seems pretty possible to me that as the #2 corner he is gone before the Texans come around. People seem to count it almost as a lock that he will be available as a great value pick. If he's that valuable at that important a position, I have trouble believing he'll be there.
     
    #298 Ottomaton, Apr 19, 2010
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    I agree with your assessment of facts, and I think Dunta Robinson even as a shell of his former self is still an average cornerback. Not Pro Bowl caliber by any means, but probably at least good enough to start.

    I do not think he was worth the money the Falcons paid him, few players ever really end up earning their free agent deals.


    My rationale for thinking the Texans should pick Wilson over Matthews is that I think there is a bigger dropoff from Wilson to the 2nd-3rd round CBs then there is from Ryan Matthews to the 2-3 round RBs.

    I'm not convinced that Matthews is leaps and bounds better than guys like Tate or Hardesty who run hard and run well, but I am of the opinion that Kyle Wilson is going to be a good one.
     
  20. Joe Joe

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    Definitely agree.
     

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