Lebron was the reason they won 60+ games and made it that far through the playoffs. He completely dominated, but there's only so much one player can do when his role players do absolutely nothing in the playoffs. When you look at Hakeem's vaunted run in '94, look at how the roleplayers stepped up. The one thing I appreciate about Tinman is that he doesn't give Hakeem all the glory - it was a team effort that won the Rockets the championship. He doesn't even need a superstar - just competent roleplayers who are capable of consistently making the right plays. Right now Lebron James is the best player in the NBA - and it's not even close. It doesn't matter what metric you use it all points to the same answer. It's funny you bring up Shaq. Everyone knew that Shaq was going to win LA titles as soon as he announced his intent to sign with them (and screw over Orlando in the process). It is similar in that there is SO much hype around where he signs because if he signs with a solid team, they automatically become favorites to win the championship.
2mvps, won 2 regular seasons, same year. Zero Finals in those years. Failure. u prob thought they were the best team in April
So when they win 60+ games its Lebron but when they lose its the role players and everyone around him. Cool
How about highlight any success MJ had without Pippen. Or Shaq without another all NBA first team player? Gasol is 2 time all NBA 3rd team to date, it's almost a joke compared to the player Pippen, Kobe and Wade was when MJ and Shaq won it all.
Really? Cmon man don't tell me you've only been watching basketball these last 4 years? If so that's an awfully short time to have developed such a heated opinion on one guy.
I"m talking all time. There could be one, i don't know. 2mvps, regular season champs in those 2 mvp years, didn't reach finals in either of they years. is there another player in nba history to accomplish that fate twice? that is my question.
did it once. not twice. :grin: and of course Steve Nash is the only MVP to never play in the NBA Finals
Thanks for assisting me. Everyone needed help to win. Since we are discussing LeBrons failures, please note what players he has had as good as Pippen, Drexler, Kobe early on or Gasol now? Yeah, that's what I thought.
yah but u and the other lebron jock lovers don't mention this when all is well in april the last 2 seasons. so if the cavs somehow do win, Lebron is just amazing if they lose, well the guys were not any good.
I think people forget that he's playing in the East where it is much easier to win.... a first round series in the west vs. a first round series in the east... it ain't even close.... The west is WAY more competitive... has been for a while. Racking up 60 wins... going to the finals once in his career (which was pretty ******* easy at that other than that one pistons series)... and then showed why he got swept by the Spurs. LeBron going to the finals in 07 would equal Kobe beating the Suns in 06 or 07. It's all the same.
I bet you didn't even think Gasol was an all star caliber player before the trade to the Lakers went down haha. Keep hating Gasol is where he is right now because of the sucess Kobe & the Lakers system has brought
Elevating his teammates play. Funny thats something he's been accused of not doing and he has done exactly that with Gasol
60% apparently thought LBJ had enough help: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=6028 And that's probably with some voting after Boston had already taken game 2. What does going 7-18, 3-14 (while your team gets blown out by 32 at home), and 8-21 in 3 straight losses have to do with not having any help? I could maybe buy that argument had he raised his game and others didn't. Instead, he stunk and everyone else followed his lead. When your star doesn't play with energy it deflates everyone on the team.
