That's why I kind of find it necessary to sign both Jones and Plutko even if it means sacrificing Velasquez. We get that pick in a very deep draft. We agree. I've been in favor of this outcome since we drafted Jones.
Velasquez has already said he would like to sign with the Astros so I am betting he does. The Dodgers drafted Zach Lee in the 1st round knowing he probably won't sign since he wants to play football and baseball at LSU. They knew the 2011 draft is going be a lot better than 2010 draft. Jacoby Jones is asking for a lot of of money like more than $2 million. According to article is hometown, Jones' father said the Astros contacted Jones on Monday before the draft and told him they would draft him in the first round with the eighth pick of the draft. They offered a signing bonus of $1.4 million and he rejected. http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/article/20100610/HSSPORTS/100609018
Another Jacoby Jones article. http://www.clarionledger.com/articl...RTS/Richton-s-Jones-not-your-usual-573rd-pick Looks like we won't have a decision until August which could workout for the Astros. If they unload Oswalt, Berkman, Myers, Blum, and Feliz they would save a lot of money and could invest some of it to the paying the draff class as well the International Signing Period which begains July 2.
Very wise thought process. Here's hoping Plutko and JJ get signed. We'll have a another top 10 pick next year, do we have any more Valverdes for other teams to sign so we can get another pick? :grin:
Also agree with this, dump all the vets you can and get draft picks and prospects. The Stros are going to suck for a couple of years but it's the only way to rebuild.
Jamaine Cotton to sign today/tonight/sometime soon for $75,000 http://virginislandsdailynews.com/sports/4-v-i-baseball-players-tapped-in-mlb-draft-1.838936
If Berkman's team option is declined and he qualifies for for Type A status which I think he can for sure.
Don't you have to offer a player arbitration and he decline to be eligible to get draft picks? I wouldn't think you'd be able to offer arbitration to a player whose contract option you declined, but I honestly have no idea.
Old first baseman on the decline don't go for much in free agency. If the Astros offer arbitration, he would probably accept it so you wouldn't get the draft picks.
You can decline the option, then everything starts up. They are two separate matters. If or I mean when we finish out of the race in 4th, 5th or 6th place, we can make a deal with Berkman (if qualifies as Type A) to decline his team option if he declines arbitration. This would allow us to pick up two picks for him and allow him to sign with whomever he likes. Berkman gets to sign with a contender and we get two picks for compensation. Team and player options don't affect the arbitration process when getting compensatory picks. I think this is better down the line, assuming Berkman qualifies and we can't find a deal equivalent to two first rounders. We know Berkman won't be signing with a team in the bottom 15, so unless the team signing the Puma signs another Type A who is rated higher than Lance, we get their first rounder and a sandwich pick.
I don't think that's a good deal for Lance -- he's leaving the only team he's ever known and taking a huge paycut in the process. Just look at what he's saying now -- he'll only waive no-trade clause if they pick up his option. He wants that money.
Not if we make a deal with him. Lance has already said that he wants to play for a championship now and realizes that its probably not possible in Houston. He said he would love to net the team some value in a trade, so I don't see why he wouldn't decline arbitration knowing someone will surely sign him. If he barely qualifies for Type A status, then it might now work because it would keep potential suitors from wanting to give up so much for him. If he heats up and it anything like his 06-08 years, tons of teams will be applying for his services. He's Lance Berkman not Russell Branyan. You are getting one of the best OBP guys in the league, as well as a good glove and one of the better clubhouse guys in the league. All this attributes a huge deal.
Let's try this again.. you spoke with such conviction, I believed you. But I think you're wrong. We can't decline a team option and then offer arbitration. I'll edit with sources when I can, but I'm 99% sure.
Nobody in their right mind would pick his option up at this point. He will definitely come to his senses around the deadline, as many will vouch for me.
Well I can live with that when you show me the proof. I don't think that makes very much sense that just because you have an option means you can't give compensation for leaving. If that were the case, I don't think many contracts would have options in them.
It makes sense to me. Arbitration should be for you to be able to keep a player from leaving or get compensation for it if he does. If you decline his option, it seems to me that you were perfectly able to keep him if you wanted to but chose not to. I don't think you should be compensated in this situation.
Yeah but the team option of 15 million with a buyout for two million is there just in case Lance isn't producing at the end of the deal. You are saying that Houston shouldn't be entitled to compensation because they don't want to overpay Berkman. I'm fairly certain that you can decline an option, then offer arbitration, so you get draft picks for a good not great talent. He's good enough to cost you significantly if you lose him, but not great enough to be making 15 million dollars.
Looks like you're right: That still makes no sense to me. But nothing about baseball's CBA makes sense to me either. I still maintain the NBA is the only sport of the big three who does it right.
My only problem with NBA is everyone is supposedly even with the Salary Cap and Luxury Cap, but trades like Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown are allowed to make it through the league office. I like the NBA for not handing money to rookies like the NFL, but I like how the MLB runs things. Having teams spend upwards of 150 million while other teams operating at 30-40 million is interesting. Especially, when the Marlins have operated so cheaply, yet done so well. I believe personally that this gives teams a mystique you cannot find in other professional sports. Often the Yankees are looked at as the bad guys because they spend so much money to win titles. Other teams don't have the luxury of doing this, so it causes a stir among the fans that you will not find in the other two mainstay professional sports. Funny thing is, the same teams keep winning in the other "controlled" capped sports. In baseball, you have the Rays making the World Series and teams like the Padres leading the National League West unexpectedly. I love Major League Baseball because they can make bad guys by just having discrepancies in salary each team uses.
Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown would be allowed in any league -- not just the NBA. Just because it's an unbalanced trade, talent-wise, doesn't mean it's unfair CBA wise. And further, that trade wasn't even that bad -- Marc Gasol is a hell of a player. Nobody knew he was any good, so they assumed that trade was terrible and that perception has continued, even though Marc has proven to be a really good center.. Baseball has the worst CBA, hands down. The Yankees have such a competitive advantage due to their market it's unreal. Further, player's salaries continue to skyrocket due to the lack of cap; this will continue to push the gap between the Yankees and Marlins even further apart. And you can find "fans stirring" without baseball's ridiculous lack of salary cap. How many people hate Kobe and the Lakers? Boston and KG? The Patriots or Cowboys? People hate good players and good teams -- you don't need a salary cap discrepancy to create that. Hell, everyone loved the Red Sox.. until they were considered a really good team. Now they're just as bad as the Yankees.
