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2008 Senate Races

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. glynch

    glynch Member

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    I read somewhere that 62% of Republicans want her to remain in national politics.
     
  2. Desert Scar

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    That is not a very good number for your own party. Consider her Dem and Ind numbers are probably abysmal.
     
  3. BetterThanEver

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    That would be a great number if it was for all voters, but it's not.
     
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  5. glynch

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    I'm afraid that 8 years from now most Americans will forget what a bimbo she has been and she will still be well spoken, (in a superficial sort of way) but fortunately not as attractive.

    She will have been tutored to be more sophisticated politically.

    She is a dangerous little demagogue and hopefully can be derailed before she gets much more power. As we see with McCain the GOP country club types will not be beyond using her and she won't be beyond using them.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    I disagree. Palin is an intellectual lightweight and all she has to do is open her mouth. Tutoring can't cover that up. At the presidential level, it's too obvious she's in way over her head. So-called "core" Republicans may be in love with her, but that doesn't matter. If Palin does become a serious candidate for the GOP, she will split their party. Remember, a dog (pit bull) with lipstick is still a dog.

    From my standpoint, the main threat posed by Palin is that her ascendancy would delay the disintegration and renewal of the GOP by another 4 or 8 years. The Dems would have free reign and that's a bad thing.
     
  7. A_3PO

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    Keep in mind that GW Bush was elected, twice..
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    She has 4 years of cramming and sweeping things under Alaska's oil financed rug.

    People are so easy to dismiss things and write off politicians.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    Palin has had the proverbial "15 seconds" of fame. She hasn't done anything to show me she has (1) staying power, (2) enough intelligence & (3) that she can gather the support of enough Republicans to have a realistic chance of being the GOP nominee in the future. She did exactly what I expected, which was to completely kill John McCain's chances of winning. Not only has she been ripped by Dems and independents, Republicans have blasted her.

    Everything she does and says screams out, "lightweight". The comparison with Bush holds except that she doesn't have the heft of the entire GOP establishment's weight behind her. Most of you are Dems. Be mindful the GOP doesn't select it's nominee the same way you do. She must get the support of the fatcats or her candidacy will be a non-starter. Remember what happened to McCain in 2000. They will do likewise to her (in a different way) if another candidate lines up his/her ducks better.

    The only way I can see her getting nominated is if, once again, the candidates in 2012 are all weak and she wins by default. My guess is that happens because Obama is successful and other GOP hopefuls have the good sense not to waste their time. Just look at our forum here. How many of the Republicans have defended her as a great candidate? Palin's appeal is limited even within the GOP.

    The United States of America will not elect Sarah Palin as president if the GOP is stupid enough to nominate her. If that's what it takes for the party to collapse, rebuild and regain it's sanity, so be it.
     
  11. Jugdish

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    You'd think Democrats would overwhelmingly favor Palin as a figurehead of the Republican party.
     
  12. Desert Scar

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    Lest we forget Ron Reagan cruised to 2 terms and even wowed the British (who had not seen politicians use teleprompters and thus were amazed). GWB had two terms as well.

    I respect Palin as a politician/communicator, and don't want her near the presidency. And I yet not convinced Americans' would not put another intellectual lightweight because Obama won. The economy drove much (most) of it.
     
  13. rimrocker

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    Stick a fork in Ted...

     
  14. mc mark

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    one down, two to go...
     
  15. A_3PO

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    I think you guys have a chance to get one of them (MN). The Georgia runoff won't even be close.
     
  16. mc mark

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    You're probably right. With MN and Lieberman gives the dems 60 right?
     
  17. Major

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    Nope - that gets to 59. The GA race is a bit up in the air though. Turnout is really low for those things, so it's really a ground game based thing. With the Obama ground operation (and many of his operatives are going out there), I would say the Dem has a chance - except so many of the Obama voters came out just for Obama, so I can't see them coming out for this random runoff.
     
  18. insane man

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    mark. can we just not acknowledge lieberman. please. pretty please.
     
  19. mc mark

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    that's a big 10-4

    But I Think Major is right; it'll be interesting to see the turnout in GA
     
  20. A_3PO

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    No, 59. But the two RINOs in Maine known as Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins put you over the top.

    These remaining senate races bug me because I want closure for the election. Let's get it over with! But when it comes to the "magic" 60, I really don't think it's going to be an issue the next 2 years, especially when you throw in more guys like Specter.
     

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