Whats moronic about believing in Democracy? That people have a choice, and Lieberman made one. Everyone is making promises to put party affiliation behind them, but when somebody does he is a traitor. He backed the candidate he thought was the best for America. I apolgize for being a moron.
Norm Coleman is declaring victory even though a recount is likely to happen. Coleman is placing the honus of the recount on Franken saying it is his, Franken's, choice to have the recount. I am unclear if this is the case as according to the Secretary of State this is required when an election is this close. I presume Coleman is saying that Franken could concede and the recount wouldn't happen.
That may be true as I haven't seen the Startribunes exit polls but according to polls leading up to the race, including polls conducted by the Republican party they were saying that Barkley was drawing about evenly. Given how close this race was though if Barkley drew even just slightly more from potential Franken votes that tip the difference. Although given how close this race was its possible that the 2,000 some write ins could've made the difference.
I'm assuming you're calling out the last part of his statement stereotyping "liberals?" The rest of his statement isn't moronic at all. Calling Lieberman a traitor is hardly productive or accurate, and Lieberman has shown democracy at work by getting elected as an independent.
Maybe I should have added the word "seems" like a major league douche. More of a feeling in the few news nuggets I've seen about him. He uses frivolous lawsuits like a camapign strategy and has sued Humphrey and Wellstone and Franken more than once.
I'm no fan of Coleman and don't think he's a douche so much as an opportunistic shill. That said I think Franken very well might be worse. He's not a shill and stands by his beliefs but his reflexive and angry partisanship wouldn't have served MN well in the Senate.
Recount in Minn, the margin is so small it is hard to determine what will happen. CNN's initial exit polls strongly favoring Franken (which they later changed) were wack. Oregon looks like Merkeley from where the votes are yet to come in (more so in the big urban counties). Also don't forget probably a runoff will be required in Georgia because the winning candidate must have >49.99999, though Chambliss has to be extremely favored. But with Dems organization and momentum, and flooding that state, who knows. They should be re-running all the shameless ads about Max Clellend and reminding voters how Chambliss got there. I got to admit I am no huge fan of Franken as a senator (kind of strange that is the best Dem's could nominate in a year that seat should have been an easy pick off), but by far the most embarrassing vote has to be Alaska looking like they are returning Stevens. He can resign and Palin nominates a replacement. What total nitwit county that is. Let them secede so long as we have a oil and tourist treaty in place prior. I am guessing it ends at 57 Dem Sen. I think Coleman, Stevens and Chambliss and Merkeley will win. Coleman/Franken is the closest to a toss-up among them and may wind up in court.
Since Stevens is losing his post, they can appoint a new republican senator. Wouldn't Sarah Palin be eligible? It would be a way for her to stay in involved on the national level, as she gears up for her 2012 presidential run. Hmmm....
That would be correct, Hayes. It was aimed at this: "That is all most liberals are. They vote together, when somebody doesn't follow, they cry."
Coleman's lead down to 236 votes and the official recount hasn't even been done. As they double check returns more votes are being found that were misplaced due to human error. http://www.startribune.com/politics...yqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr
Crazy stuff. 1,211,542 to 1,211,306 (and 437,377 for the other guy). Total votes are 2,860,225. This is a 0.008%. Franken actually has a chance to pull it off. I hope he doesn't but the notion of an election result being reversed by a recount is kind of exciting.
Even though I'm not a fan of Franken, I'm even less a fan of Coleman. I hope he pulls out a victory. That's close!
It's now 1,211,556 to 1,211,335, a difference of 221 votes. It's possible that no matter what happens in the recount, the loser will litigate the result until the bitter end and the U.S. Senate may decide who is seated. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gMpTmr96V5hKIfyHT4Av4jsVQgrQD949S5M80 Regarding Uncle Ted, his chance of holding on maybe be 50/50 at best because the remaining early votes and absentee votes may favor Begich by a good margin. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gMpTmr96V5hKIfyHT4Av4jsVQgrQD949S5M80
More on Coleman/Franken: http://www.startribune.com/politics...yqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr. It could be Florida in 2000 all over again or something similar. Most 'undervotes' cast in counties won by Obama By BRIAN BAKSTAssociated Press Writer, Associated Press November 7, 2008 An Associated Press analysis of the nearly 25,000-vote difference in Minnesota presidential and U.S. Senate race tallies shows that most ballots lacking a recorded Senate vote were cast in counties won by Democrat Barack Obama. The finding could have implications for Republican Sen. Norm Coleman and DFLer Al Franken, who are headed for a recount separated by the thinnest of margins -- 221 votes as of Friday, or about 0.01 percent. Though some voters may have intentionally bypassed the race, others may have mismarked their ballot or optical scanning machines may have misread them. A recount to begin Nov. 19 will use manual inspection to detect such ballots. Three counties -- Hennepin, Ramsey and St. Louis -- account for 10,540 votes in the dropoff. Each saw Obama win with 63 percent or more. Ballots that showed a presidential vote but no Senate vote are called the "undervote." Statewide, more than 18,000 of those ballots came from counties won by Obama with more than half the vote. About 6,100 were in counties won by Republican John McCain with at least 50 percent. In 13 counties, the two ran about even; in all, those counties combined for 707 ballots without a Senate preference. The largest of the pro-McCain counties were Anoka, where 1,189 ballots didn't choose a Senate candidate, and Stearns, where 681 did not. There's one more critical statistic: About 8,900 people weren't recorded as voting for president, according to county-by-county turnout estimates kept by the Secretary of State's Office. That nearly 9,000 people would skip the closely watched race is questionable, raising the possibility that as many as 33,700 ballots might be subject to change in a hand recount. What recount teams will be looking for is whether stray or light marks on ballots signaled a voter's preference. Michael Shamos, a Carnegie Mellon University computer science professor who studies election systems, said the dropoff didn't strike him as suspiciously large. "All that means to me is they consider the presidential race more important than the Senate race," he said. "They either didn't make up their mind. They didn't care. They didn't make a mark in that race." To be sure, similar dropoffs have happened in the past. In 2000, the last year with both races on Minnesota's ballot, about 19,000 presidential voters were not recorded as casting a Senate vote. Fewer people voted that year, making the dropoff rate similar to this year's. Because Democrat Mark Dayton won clearly that year, there was no review of ballots.
Yeah I heard about the undercounts on the ballots and was listening to a Republican strategist yesterday that was flabbergasted by that these were in primarily counties that voted for Obama. She didn't say it but I think she was hinting at a lawsuit from the Coleman regarding the recount. This thing is going to get a lot more interesting and don't be surprised to see Florida 2000 replayed on the frozen tundra.
My daughter-in-law was watching 3rd Rock From The Sun reruns and came across an episode that had Al Franken in it and he’s running for some sort of office against Harry. Al Franken is trying to get dirt on Harry from Newman, they can’t find anything. Franken says, “No past, no record, no experience…The perfect candidate.”
