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[2008] Republicans

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. deepblue

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    Agreed, also if Obama beats McCain in Nov and pulls a Jimmy Carter, Romney can come back in 2012 to run on his economy platform.
     
  2. Refman

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    I think that Romney is trying to make his willingness to serve as VP known.
     
  3. baller4life315

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    Agreed. That's the smartest tactical route Romney could take at this given point. Why else would he endorse a candidate he had such differences with, right?
     
  4. Refman

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    Well yeah....that and the article posted indicated that he may rejoin as a VP candidate.
     
  5. mc mark

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    You really think McCain would ask Romney to be the VP?
     
  6. A_3PO

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    If Romney joins him as veep, then McCain can kiss my vote goodbye! The decision will be either taking a pass or voting Dem (which I have never done for president).
     
  7. rimrocker

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    If McCain is somehow tied to the public funding... and it looks increasingly like he will be... Repubs would demand Romney be the nominee because he could then spend as much as he could raise.

    I don't think Willard ends up as VP nominee. He either ends up as P nominee or nothing. If the former, McCain is his VP nominee.

    At any rate, they will lose and the GOP is once again exposed as incompetent, though this time it's in the one area... winning elections... they're supposed to have some expertise.
     
  8. weslinder

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    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iE2JCSH5p9r2GBkQWS9TWAMzmuvQD8V1I6PO0

    McCain Says He Could Lose Over War Issue
    By LIZ SIDOTI – 1 hour ago

    ROCKY RIVER, Ohio (AP) — John McCain said Monday that to win the White House he must convince a war-weary country that U.S. policy in Iraq is succeeding. If he can't, "then I lose. I lose," the Republican said.

    He quickly backed off that remark.

    "Let me not put it that stark," the likely GOP nominee told reporters on his campaign bus. "Let me just put it this way: Americans will judge my candidacy first and foremost on how they believe I can lead the county both from our economy and for national security. Obviously, Iraq will play a role in their judgment of my ability to handle national security."

    "If I may, I'd like to retract 'I'll lose.' But I don't think there's any doubt that how they judge Iraq will have a direct relation to their judgment of me, my support of the surge," McCain added. "Clearly, I am tied to it to a large degree."

    The five-year-old Iraq conflict already is emerging as a fault line in the general election, with the Arizona senator calling for the U.S. military to continue its mission while his Democratic opponents urge speedy withdrawal.

    While most Republicans still back the war, many independents and Democrats don't. That presents a significant challenge for McCain and an opportunity for either Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    McCain acknowledged the war will be "a significant factor in how the American people judge my candidacy."

    The lead Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, McCain has consistently backed the war although he's long criticized the way it was waged after the Saddam Hussein's fall. He was an original proponent of President Bush's troop-increase strategy, having called for more forces on the ground for several years. Last spring, McCain went all in on the war by embracing it as Bush took heat for boosting troop levels to quell violence.

    "We can fail in Iraq," McCain said Monday in an Associated Press interview. But, he added: "I see a clear path to success in Iraq." He defined that as fewer casualties and Iraqi troops taking over security to allow U.S. forces to return home. "All of us want out of Iraq, the question is how do we want out of Iraq," he added.

    McCain has signaled that he plans to make Iraq and national security a major part of his general election campaign. Daily, he accuses both Obama and Clinton as wanting to "wave the white flag of surrender." Democrats, for their part, are arguing that McCain's candidacy is simply a continuation of Bush's "failed" policies. They have seized on a previous McCain remark in which he suggested that U.S. troop presence — at some level — could extend 100 years or more.

    At a town hall-style meeting in suburban Cleveland, McCain accused Democrats of distorting that comment and sought to explain. "The war will be over soon, the war for all intents and purposes, although the insurgency will go on for years and years and years. But it will be handled by the Iraqis, not by us," he said. Like after other wars, he said, the United States then will decide "what kind of security arrangement we want to have with the Iraqis."

    While McCain attracts voters across the political spectrum, he is sure to face resistance this fall for his Iraq position in Ohio and other swing states that have seen high numbers of residents die in Iraq.

    Over the next eight months, McCain said he would take the same approach when discussing Iraq that he's taken all year as he won primary after primary on his way to securing the GOP nomination.

    Speaking to reporters on his bus, he said he would "tell them that I understand their frustration and their sorrow over the sacrifice that has been made and then I try to explain to them what's at stake and what's going on there now. And that's the best I can do."

    McCain said his candidacy will be successful "if I can convince the American people, the people of Ohio, that this is succeeding, that the casualties will continue down, although there are occasional spikes."

    "So I have to, and I believe can, make an argument that the surge is succeeding, that we will end this war and have the Iraqis take over those responsibilities as we more and more assume support roles and then withdraw," he added.

    McCain recalled reading a USA Today poll that he said showed most people believe the troop-increase strategy is succeeding, and said: "Now, still the majority of Americans want out of Iraq. And, I understand that, too. So do I."

    The survey actually found that 43 percent — not a majority — said the troop increase is "making the situation there better," up from 22 percent in July.

    Asked why he asked to retract the "I lose" remark, McCain said much else could impact his chances.

    "We've got many months to go before the general election," he said. "But is Iraq an important part of the judgment that people will make of me, of course."
     
  9. El_Conquistador

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    Would we rather have this guy leading our War on Terror?

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  10. basso

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    Romney is not re-entering the race. period. and McCain will not ask him to be VP. again. period.
     
  11. torque

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    yes...
     
  12. Refman

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    Probably not, but I don't think I would want to be on record saying never...period.

    Anything can happen in politics, and if it does, you'll look like a buffoon.
     
  13. weslinder

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    I would rather we not have wars against things or ideas. No Wars on Terror, no Wars on Drugs, no Wars on Poverty, no Wars against AIDS. All of these so-called wars are simply excuses to tax Americans more and expand the Federal government (and in the first three cases, rob the people of liberty). When war is really required, Congress should declare war against a specific group of people (whether a nation or terrorist organization or a gang of pirates), and when they are defeated, bring the troops home to protect the mainland.

    Someone thought this was a good idea. Namely, these guys:

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  14. basso

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    i voted for clinton, so i guess you're correct.
     
  15. A_3PO

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    Why in the blue yonder did you vote for Clinton? Just curious.
     
  16. mc mark

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    This guy will do just fine!

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  17. Apollo Creed

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    Because of his overwhelming fear of Obama.
     
  18. weslinder

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    Bah, anyone who didn't watch enough Westerns to know that good guys wear white hats can't possibly be American enough.
     
  19. Refman

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    So we have gone from Taliban Obama to Cowboy Obama? You know, a president who fashions himself a cowboy got us into this mess. ;)
     
  20. mc mark

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    Very good point! Now if he shows up somewhere in a flight suit, I'll start to worry.

    :D
     

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