Don't look at me, I'm voting for McCain all the way. The lack of experience is just another hurdle (not as big as race) that OBama will have to face that Giuliani doesn't. Whether it's justified (experience) or not (race) is moot, we know how the red states will vote, though they may surprise you especially if Iraq is still an issue in '08.
The highest ranking Democratic Senator is Pro-life. In fact, the RNC could use his all of his positions for their platform were the war not happening. I think the major parties' "principles" are over-rated. If a party member is a great leader, they'll forgive a huge amount of differences in stance.
You're wrong. While I agree that general likeability goes a very long way in primary and general presidential elections, there's a segment of GOP voters that would never vote for a pro-choice candidate when there was a pro-life one on the ballot and that segment is easily large enough to decide a relatively close primary race.
we'll see. in every GOP straw poll i've seen, some internet based, which are horribly unreliable, and some by rassmussen and others, giuliani beats every potential GOP candidate, often handily. 2nd and 3rd is typically split between McCain and Condi. if i had to bet, i say the GOP ticket is Rudy/Condi, and that might scare a lot of democrats, and puzzle them now, because they don't think rudy can be elected. well, 9/11 changed everything, and rudy is far more palatable to the great mass of GOP voters, who are far more "tolerant", whatever that means, than most democrats i know. i'd also place even odds that condi becomes Veep sometime this year.
The only thing I'm scared of is that I won't be able to find this post to bump and laugh at you (or whoever you might be copy-pasting from if this is one of "those" posts) when nothing you say happens and Bob Jones university chooses the candidate.
thats a shame, seeing as he is pretty much the only politician, republican or democrat, who is actually trying to look out for our interests. i may register republican just so i can give him my primary vote.
Hey, aren't you that plagiarist? Well, here again you display your unusual gift for misunderstanding the facts. The polls at this point are largely meaningless except for gauging name recognition, as evidenced by Lieberman's gigantic lead this time in the last presidential cycle and Dean's asterisk in the same polls. If you were to poll likely GOP voters and just ask them Rudy's positions on gays, guns and abortion right now, they wouldn't come close to getting those positions right. I think it's special that you're misreading name recognition and a general warm, fuzzy feeling for Rudy's rhetoric and actions on and around 9/11 for GOP comfort with gay rights, gun control and abortion, but that's all it is. I do think it would be a good move for Bush to install Condi as veep but ONLY if she wanted to be the next president and also go through a campaign for that office. It's clear from Bush's unstated but steady support of McCain (he's been sending his people that way while his brother's been sending his to Romney) that that is not the case. I think there is also a good chance that Condi is not entirely in line with the social conservative agenda, which (if true) would make her about the very last person Rudy would choose to balance his ticket in the extraordinarily unlikely scenario that he could get the nomination given his pansy, San Francisco values on those same issues. I do love it when you play pundit though. It's almost as funny as when you pretend to be a writer.
i'm delighted by your command of the "facts" since at this stage, there aren't any. and i bet most republicans, particularly your liberty baptists types, know rudy's past. and he'll have to deal with it in some fashion in the primaries- it'll be interesting to watch how that works. but rudy's record is much more widely known that BlalaCk Hussein Osama's, yet you have no trouble understanding his appeal. hmmmm. as to Condi- i know she's just an oreo to you, but to many she's an inspiration, even tho she's "childless." we'll see how it plays. Condi on the ticket in some fashion changes the race- how will be the interesting thing to watch. a liberal republican and a black woman on the same ticket? it'll be interesting to see if you really vote your conscience, and vote the issues, or just follow the hard left demo line.
I don't agree with any of thier positions enough to vote for them in a primary election. If I had to pick, I would probably go for McCain because I think he would have the best chance of winning in the general election.
I like Rudy - he's a pragmatist. While I don't agree on all his stances, particularly on Iraq, I think he's just towing party line to balance his social views. I don't think he'd make the same gross errors Bush made. McCain is alright, but I think he's better as an outspoken senator then a feather-ruffling president.
ehh how many nationally experienced politicians have we had? bush: none, gov clinton: worked some in dc, but was gov bush: cia, vp reagan: gov i may be overlooking something????
DaDakota, What happens when you tie each of your legs to two different horses running in opposite directions?
The experience question has come up many times before for potential presidential candidates even if they are white as recently as with John Edwards who was running with about the same amount of experience Obama will be. There is also a difference between the mayor of the largest city in America for two terms and federal prosecutor in a major district compared to being a state senator for a suburban district. Even with Obama's 2 years in the US Senate I would say that Guiliani has a lot more leadership experience and political accomplishments than Obama.
So Condi is an inspiration and you criticize the BJ for considering her an oreo yet you go ahead and mock Barack Obama's name.... hmmmm.
as i've said ad nauseum, i'd consider voting for mr. hussein osama (for background on this locution, search one of batman's other threads on the subject). but condi's is a uniquely american story. she grew up in segregated alabama, was friends with one of the four little girls who were killed in birmingham in 1963, and rose above it all to become secretary of state. i find that inspiring. and i'd find it inspiring if she were a democrat (who knows, she may be). obama may have his own story, and it's not a contest in any case- we don't have to tear down one to build up the other.
