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[2008] Republicans

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. Deckard

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    Is it on video tape? I hope so. Hell, if he said it in the debate, it's a stupid question on my part. ;)

    If the candidates are either McCain or Giuliani, all the Democrats need to do is run commercials of their rabid support of the Iraq invasion and occupation, and they will be toast. Hell, even the Democratic Party, my own party, a political party that in recent presidential elections has found an amazing capacity to nominate smart people who sound like fools, will have to go to enormous lengths to blow the 2008 elections. It's going to be a trip.



    edit: Thought I'd also post this comment here, since it's pertinent. (I posted it in the immigration thread)

    Well, it took Arnold about 40 years, but he speaks English rather well. Finally. ;)

    In all seriousness, he's a Republican I would strongly consider voting for, and he can't even run. There isn't another Republican of his stature who comes close to his brand of moderate conservatism, much less one running for President. I've always liked the guy, warts and all. :cool:



    D&D. Replicant Democrat!
     
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  2. weslinder

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    Again, simple brilliance:

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  3. rodrick_98

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    deck - after watching that video, you couldn't vote for ron paul?

    you say arnold is the only one you could vote for and yet he parallels bush in many aspects.
     
  4. Deckard

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    He's never floated my boat. I think there is a role for government in our system... he would reverse much of what is good, as he worked at reversing much that is bad. I prefer someone more to the left and someone not so dogmatic. I have to admit that I have a greater regard for Paul than I did compared to the previous many years. From me, that's saying a lot. I wouldn't vote for him, though.


    D&D. Replicant Democrat.
     
  5. mc mark

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    via TPM --

    How did we not learn about this sooner?

    From Newsday ...

    That's the kind of story that ends a campaign, especially one like Rudy's based on standing up to terrorism and hanging tough in Iraq. And that's probably why the campaign put out this statement, which Jonah Goldberg posted at The Corner ...

    But wait. If being a presidential candidate was the issue, why'd Rudy accept the appointment in the first place? And did the possibility of running for president make him blow off all the meetings? Was he informally recusing himself? C'mon. In any case, the statement concedes that 'time restraints' (does he mean 'constraints'?) were an issue. So he's not even really denying the claim.

    So Rudy's running on terrorism and Iraq. But he got booted off a congressionally-mandated blue ribbon panel because he couldn't be bothered to show up for the meetings. It conflicted with his for-a-price speaking gigs. Like I said, it's the kind of story that ends campaigns.

    -- Josh Marshall

    The full Newsday article -- http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/ny-usrudy0619,0,2577021,print.story
     
  6. mc mark

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    The Democrats can't even get us out of Iraq and yet you think they are the saviors of the republic. Your faith in our government is your downfall. Granted, the Republicans are currently driving the bus to hell. Ron Paul isn't either and that is why I like the man.
     
  9. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    If I could make $814,000 per month as a speaker, I wouldn't want to give that up to go to some meetings of a group that has no real authority to make changes.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    Authority to make changes...? Maybe not, but at the time, Bush did claim he was going to listen and strongly consider implementing many of their suggestions. Bush gave every impression that the Iraqi study group would play an important part in deciding future policy toward Iraq.

    For someone to blow off the opportunity to have a voice in that, is something that should be considered for a person who wants to be the President of the U.S.

    Weighing making money as a speaker vs. deciding policy might also have different ramifications for someone who's goal was to be a savvy business man, and someone who's aim was to lead the world's super power.
     
  11. Nice Rollin

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    I finally watched this republican debate.....

    I find it really sad that everyone says "i believe in god" "i believe jesus christ is our savior"......it's sad :(

    it's sad that they even bring that kind of stuff up these days. you can be the most qualified person to be president, but if you're not a christian, then you wont be nominated for president.
     
  12. Nice Rollin

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    and im just wondering....im not taking shots at rudy gilioni and his supports, but what's so special about him???? i just wanna see what those who voted for him on here see in this guy
     
  13. Zac D

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    I am with you in this particular area of "huh?"ism. To my knowledge, the summary of his qualifications runs as follows: 9/11 9/11 9/11 NIEN ELEVIN TERRISTS TERRISTS IZLAMOFASHICKS!!@
     
  14. Nice Rollin

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    exactly......what makes him qualified to be president??? he was mayor when 9/11 happened. so what??? he didnt do anything speciial. he's not more qualified that mccain for example.......or bill richardson. although he's on the democratic side, he's the MOST qualified person to be president.
     
  15. StupidMoniker

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    Come on now. When was the last time Bush listened to advisers that were telling him something different than what he wanted to hear? Being on an advisory panel to Bush might be the biggest waste of effort a person could engage in, next to playing soccer.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    But in order to believe that Rudy would have to believe the President who's policy he has supported was a liar.

    If Rudy wants to come out and use Bush was a liar so he didn't see the point of serving on the committee, then maybe the issue would quiet down.
     
  17. Nice Rollin

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    man, bush's advisors tell him what he wants to hear. remember when bush said he doesnt read the newspaper in the morning. he gets all his news from his advisors...either bush is really ignorant, or he trusts his advisors and follows every word they say....
     
  18. mc mark

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    Romney Aide Under Investigation Disappears Himself

    By Greg Sargent | bio

    This morning you probably read about Jay Garrity, the hapless aide for Mitt Romney who's under investigation for allegedly impersonating a cop, harassing a reporter and other shenanigans.

    Well, it looks as if it's finally dawned on Garrity that he's creating a problem for his boss. The Romney campaign has just confirmed to Ana Marie Cox that Garrity is taking a quiet leave of absence until those probes are sorted out.

    http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/06/romney_staffer_taking_time_off.html
     
  19. mc mark

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    hum....

    Wonder why this hasn't hit the US media? From the Times of London. --

    McCain could pull out of race by autumn

    Presidential hopeful drops campaign staff as Republican consultants predict he'll be gone by September

    Sarah Baxter

    THE former presidential front-runner, John McCain, may drop out of the 2008 race by September if his fundraising dries up and his poll ratings continue to drop, according to Republican insiders.

    The speculation, vigorously denied by McCain’s camp, is sweeping Republican circles after a disastrous few weeks in which the principled Arizona senator has clashed with the party’s conservative base on immigration and also alienated independent voters by backing President George W Bush’s troop surge in Iraq.

    Randy Pullen, chairman of the Arizona Republican party, said: “He’s a battler, so I’d expect him to carry on, but everyone is waiting to see what his new fundraising totals are. That’s pretty critical. If he doesn’t have the money, he won’t be able to run.”

    The second fundraising quarter for candidates closes at the end of June and McCain’s results should be known by mid-July.

    Dan Schnur, McCain’s communications director during the 2000 presidential campaign, said it was “possible” that he could drop out: “There are all sorts of challenges McCain is facing, from fundraising to Fred Thompson and the Iraq war, but the biggest single boulder in his path is the immigration issue.”

    One veteran Republican consultant put the odds of McCain remaining in the race beyond the autumn at 3-1 against. “He’ll be gone by September,” predicted Tom Edmonds, who is not affiliated with any campaign.

    “The wheels are coming off his wagon and it’s hard to see how he can recover. He won’t be able to pay all the good talent he has hired and they’ll want to drift away from a loser.”

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1977477.ece
     
  20. weslinder

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    Dead before he started. Why do media members fall over themselves to listen to his idiocy? He needs to go to the Ted Kennedy Elected but Retired Old Senators Home.
     

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