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[2008] Republicans

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. jo mama

    jo mama Member

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    growing up in texas w/ strong family ties to iowa, i think i have a pretty good idea of what people in the south or midwest would think of a pro-gun control transvestite.

    ...not too much!
     
  2. rodrick_98

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    thoughts on debate #2?
     
  3. mc mark

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    *snicker*

    If I was a Republican this morning I would be shaking my head and wondering "I've got to choose from these knuckleheads?"
     
  4. OldManBernie

    OldManBernie Old Fogey

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    I came away very impressed with Ron Paul. He reminded me of why I used to vote for Republicans. He was very frank with his views on foreign policy. I also hated Huckabee's cheap shot at China at the very end.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Ron Paul was eliminated last night sadly. When he discussed 9/11, Rudy then took 30 seconds and torpedoed any momentum Paul might have been gaining by twisting what Paul was saying into meaning we deserved to be attacked. I think he will be labeled that way from now on.
     
  6. mc mark

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    What Ron Paul was saying was that US Foreign Policy lead to the attack. I guess it remains to be seen if it's true.

    Rudy thinks he can ride the coattails of 911 to the White House. Good Luck with that.
     
  7. Achilleus

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  8. OldManBernie

    OldManBernie Old Fogey

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    I don't know... I was pleasantly surprised to find Paul #2 to only Romney in the text message poll after the debate last night. I think it's very doubtful that Paul will make it out with the Republican nomination, but I wouldn't vote for any other Republican candidates into the office.

    Did you watch the interview of Paul after the event? Despite being grilled by Hannity, RP never flip-flopped and he stood his ground. That's the kind of guy I want as my president.
     
  9. Zac D

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    Ron Paul was eliminated as soon as he declared, but that doesn't make him wrong.

    I came away with a little more respect for John McCain, actually. I think I hope he gets the (R) nomination. Rudy's near-constant, ridiculously broad allusions to being mayor during the attacks were almost nauseating.

    It was pretty funny when Duncan Hunter said, "I think everyone else on this stage should lay out their credentials to be commander-in-chief," and then everyone, including and especially the moderators, ignored the hell out of him.

    How did Jim Gilmore get this far?
     
  10. Sishir Chang

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    I would put very little stock in text message polls or online polls about who won the debate. Ron Paul's supporters are passionate and active online but that hasn't proved to translate into wider support and campaign donations.

    Ron Paul gave an honest answer and credit to him for that but he tossed a softball that Giuliani hit out of the park. Ron Paul's statement might've won him support among independents and potential Democractic cross over votes but it hurt him badly among Republicans and helped Giuliani.
     
  11. No Worries

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    Does it? OBL said the US foreigh policy lead to 911 and had nothing to do with "hate of freedom".

    Ron Paul vs. Giuliani on the Root Causes of Terrorism

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/17340/2/FOXDebate-Paul-Rudy.mov

    Here's what Michael Scheuer, the former station chief of the CIA's Osama Bin Laden task force, has to say:



    More Ron Paul video here

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/17330/2/GOPII-Debate-Paul.mov
     
  12. justtxyank

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    I agree with what Paul said, but the fact is America is far too ignorant to believe anything other than we are attacked because Muslims hate Christian countries and lust for death.
     
  13. Saint Louis

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    The establishment is scared of Ron Paul. The American people though need a man like Ron Paul as president.
     
  14. Major

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    As much as you might like to believe otherwise, the establishment probably could care less about Ron Paul. He's been in Congress for 15+ years and is probably one of the least influential and most ignored members there. He can't win and has no national appeal. Why on earth would they be scared of him?
     
  15. justtxyank

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    True.
     
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    is it because he stands by his morals? doesn't make alliances in order to get what he wants?

    it's a shame that the few candidates from both parties that would actually make good presidents are considered "2nd or 3rd tier"
     
  17. Sishir Chang

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    The problem is that to be a good President he would need to do things like making alliances to get things done.
    I give Ron Paul a lot of credit for sticking by his principles but at the same time I don't think he would make a good President at all.
     
  18. Saint Louis

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    Well if the Republicans nominate anyone but Ron Paul, I won't be voting Republican. If the Dems nominate Hillary Clinton and Ron Paul is not the Republican nominee, then I guess I'll be voting for some minor party candidate.

    Also, alliances are for people who don't mind selling their soul to the devil. Ron Paul simply goes by what the Constitution says, nothing more, nothing less.
     
  19. Major

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    I don't disagree with any of that. I'm just saying that to win (right or wrong), there are certain things you have to do, and compromise and working with people of other opinions to accomplish something is one of them. Since he's unwilling to do that, he's irrelevant as far as the other candidates are concerned. Kucinich is in a similar situation on the Democratic side.
     
  20. Sishir Chang

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    Of course though the Constitution itself was a product of political alliances and compromise.
     

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