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2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION: Obama (D-IL) vs. McCain (R-AZ)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by GuerillaBlack, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Polls in August are so reliable!
     
  2. gifford1967

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    Take The Bet.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Funny how this line of thinking only comes out when Obama is behind...


    HO HO HO
     
  4. Major

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    Anyone who's pimping summer polls as a defining factor in a Presidential race is simply demonstrating how little they know about politics in general, and Presidential politics in particular. It's amusing though.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    When you've got a candidate that was way ahead, seemingly had unbreakable momentum, then takes a vanity tour through Europe, flip flops on key issues, body surfs while his opponent shows leadership on an international crisis in Georgia, turns in a dud of a performance at a national forum, sees his bubble pop, and then sees a dramatic poll reversal, it's news.
     
  6. Rocketman95

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    They're fun to talk about for sure. But with over two months left and the VP candidates not even announced, it's laughable to argue that these polls mean anything.
     
  7. Major

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    Except that it's not. History tells us how little value there is to an August poll. The polls will be completely different 10 days from now. And probably again a week from that. The conventions will make all of the summer stuff look like a blip on the radar.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    LOL at the libs scrambling to rationalize the polling nosedive that is currently being witnessed... How many polls have been posted in this thread alone? 50? Yet all of a sudden (now that Obama is losing), they are without meaning! What a coincidence.

    The trend has meaning, there is no doubt about that. Obama's aura is gone. His momentum is long gone. The bubble has burst. He has been

    EXPOSED
     
  9. leroy

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    In August? Before the conventions? Before he even announced his VP?

    Interesting.
     
  10. mc mark

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    Then Take the Bet coward
     
  11. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    All his posts are more meaningless than usual (if negative meaning can be assigned), as he is "speaking with his feet."

    He is so sure of McCain's upcoming loss that he won't even risk the rather trivial matter of posting on an internet BBS for a while.

    Telling.
     
  12. gifford1967

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    Barack "Arugula" Obama may be an elite, elitist, eliter, but I doubt he has trouble keeping track of how many houses he owns.

    This is definitely a problem that Joe and Jane Six Pack can relate to.

    McCain unsure how many houses he owns
    By: Jonathan Martin and Mike Allen
    August 21, 2008 08:31 AM EST

    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said in an interview Wednesday that he was uncertain how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own.

    "I think — I'll have my staff get to you," McCain told Politico in Las Cruces, N.M. "It's condominiums where — I'll have them get to you."

    The correct answer is at least four, located in Arizona, California and Virginia, according to his staff. Newsweek estimated this summer that the couple owns at least seven properties.

    In recent weeks, Democrats have stepped up their effort to caricature McCain as living an outlandishly rich lifestyle — a bit of payback to the GOP for portraying Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) as an elitist, and for turning the spotlight in 2004 on the five homes owned by Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) and his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry.

    Pro-Obama labor groups have sent out mailers highlighting McCain’s wealth, and prominent Democrats have included references to it in comments to reporters.

    Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) told Politico’s Ben Smith that it was McCain “who wears $500 shoes, has six houses and comes from one of the richest families in his state."

    And David Axelrod, Obama’s chief strategist, referred in an interview with Adam Nagourney of The New York Times to an imagined meeting of McCain strategists “on the portico of the McCain estate in Sedona — or maybe in one of his six other houses.”

    McCain’s comments came four days after he initially told Pastor Rick Warren during a faith forum on Sunday his threshold for considering someone rich is $5 million — a careless comment he quickly corrected.

    In the interview, McCain did not offer an alternate number, but had a new answer ready.

    “I define rich in other ways besides income,” he said. “Some people are wealthy and rich in their lives and their children and their ability to educate them. Others are poor if they’re billionaires.”

    McCain, by anyone's measure, is well-off, if you account for his wife's fortune. Cindy McCain inherited control of her father’s beer distributorship, the largest in Arizona, and has an estimated worth of more than $100 million.

    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=E4D4EF61-18FE-70B2-A897C50223D7ECD3
     
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    Well, the fact that Barry Soetoro has been forced to rapidly turn negative against McCain confirms what we now know to be true, which is that he is PLUMMETING in the polls. Minnesota is in play. Pennsylvania is in play. Michigan is definitely in play. Lil' Wayne is calling for a L-L-L-L-L-L LANDSLIDE.

    The libs are in panic mode over the latest round of polling. Meanwhile, the Hillary supporters are once again writing to the superdelegates... Should be an interesting convention in Denver with all of this drama.

    Has the Democratic party ever been this divided? but but but, I thought Barry Soetoro brought people together?


    HILARITY
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    Clinton working to quash anti-Obama protests at convention.
     
  15. The Cat

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    Don't believe it! It's all part of the conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
     
  16. GuerillaBlack

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    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Gonna be a barn burner.

    The Dems have to keep hammering away on the economy, and the Repubs need to keep Palin sequestered.....

    Gonna be tight.

    DD
     
  18. GuerillaBlack

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    More polls this morning showing trends moving towards Obama --

    Obama Ahead In Florida, Ohio And Pennsylvania

    A new set of Quinnipiac polls gives Barack Obama the lead in all three of the largest swing states: He's up 51%-43% in Florida, 50%-42% in Ohio, and 54%-39% in Pennsylvania, all outside the ±3.4% margins of error. Three weeks ago, Quinnipiac put Obama ahead in Ohio and Pennsylvania, but behind by seven points in Florida. The reason for Obama's surge: The economy.

    http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?ReleaseID=1218
     

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