You can't make sense of it because you never bothered to read the entire post from which that excerpt came from. And because I have an opinion that differs from yours on Mario, you simply don't consider it to be valid. Again, fine. See my response to VesceySux's post where I explain (yet again) when I was talking about the 2006 draft, his being the top and being outplayed by VY & DR because that was crux of the discussion I was having at that time. Said discussion was along the lines of Mario's production in 2008 justifying his being the top pick in 2006. I wasn't about to change the way I felt then (in 2006) just because he finally started producing in 2008 because to me, the two situations are not linked.
See, you lose credibility when you exaggerate for effect, as you clearly are here. Mario hasn't played a down of football in 2008 -- his production came in 2007. But clearly, your misguided opinion would look slightly less embarrassing if Mario's production came later, so you tried to slip that in.
for what he was hyped to be, yes. for being the "greatest pro football prospect of his generation??" absolutely. had he gone in the 3rd round, like slaton, i wouldn't think that at all. probably the exact right spot for a player like that to go.
Right but it's different with DEs and Qbs. You'd expect that a DE, especially one taken with the top pick in the draft, would produce more or less quicker than a rookie Qb. Between the two, however, I place more value on the Qb because it is so hard to find that franchise player so I'm willing to be more patient with Qb. And in 2006 I just felt that they (Texans) needed to address and had a golden opportunity to address a critical position of need - and DL wasn't it. Now, I happen to believe that Kubiak made the decision on Carr out of arrogance (after all, didn't he resurrect Jake Plummer's career?) because if he'd taken a truly objective look at Carr, he'd have seen what we already knew: that Carr was done here. He had the opportunity to get a potentially franchise Qb in that draft and he completely dismissed that opportunity. As I see it: they could have gotten the QB, played Carr and when that didn't work out, trade Carr or cut him. What's the worse that could have happened? That the young Qb wouldn't be ready and that they would have to depend on Sage? Now look at what happened: They played Carr. Did not go well. They cut Carr. They trade for a Qb. They end up having to depend on Sage. And we are going into 2008 still with uncertainty about the Qb position. This is why I have lingering suspicions about Kubiak's decision making process. And I have to admit that the Ahman Green decision certainly didn't help ease those suspicions at all.
Mario, in terms of personal performance, clearly outclassed both VY and RB last season. Why this is even still a discussion is baffling.
Do the Titans have uncertainty at their QB position going into 2008? I suspect they are concerned about Young's performance. Ratings-wise, he has been very poor his first 2 season. Isn't it fair to say that (more than likely) if Vince Young performed the exact same way for the Texans the past 2 years as he did for the Titans, that the Texans would have won less than 6 and 8 games?
Dude, now is not the time to say the Texans made a mistake by picking Mario. He clearly had a better sophomore season than the other two guys. Even the biggest hater has to admit that....
Given that Young's primary ability has been winning in spite of ugly passing numbers, I don't know if it's fair to say that. In any event it's hard to say what woudl happen. If the Texans would have drafted Young, their entire draft/FA in 2006 and 07 would have been completely different due to a diff't type of offense.
If your primary individual ability is a composite result of 50+ players independent of you, I think that pretty much says all that needs to be said.
Oh and having a great defense as well. Haynesworth was the heart and soul of last years team. And why are we talking about the Mario/VY thing again. I'm really looking forward to this year. Hopefully Spencer can come back strong along with Brown, Meyer and Winston we will have a very solid OL. Now you have a playmaker that can line up in the backfield to go along with our good group of WR's and Daniels as well as a good QB, I like the looks of our offense.
Yeah but you forget that I didn't want Bush to begin with and that I never believed that NO would have taken him at no. 2. And I didn't say that he would have dropped to no. 10 - I said that HAD he been taken around the 10th pick, this issue of whether or not he was actually the best player in the draft - better than Bush or Young - would never have come up. As for what happened in 2007, a lot of folks are using this to justify what happened in 2006. I'm just not one of them because I look at him strictly on where he was taken, why he was taken and how that all worked out and the truth be told, he didn't have such a hot year in 2006 and that's all I'm saying.
No need. I apologize. But to get back on topic, I don't understand why so many folks are unhappy with their taking Duane Brown. I mean, he's an offensive lineman and they need offensive linemen don't they? Just because Mel Kiper or the other "pundits" didn't have him ranked that high doesn't necessarily mean that he's a bad pick especially if he fits their scheme. I also agreed with their getting the RB in round 3. The Qb pick in round 7 has me scratching my head though...
Kyle Shanahan is officially my hero. The point of this, of course, is to discuss the role that Slaton will have in the offense -- but there's a subtle backhanded slap in there too. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5734861.html
Agree with all of this. I'm also intrigued by the CB they drafted in the 3rd round from Eastern Kentucky(?) Sometimes a good player can fall in the draft just because he's from a "small" school. This kid is like 6'2 and apparently very physical. Looking forward to seeing him in camp.
If you still have a thing sticking up your ass about Young, I think that says pretty much all that needed to be said. My point is that if Vince Young is drafted, all sorts of things are different at this point where forecasting what would have happened with respect to wins and losses two years later is not able to be done with any degree of accuracy given the amount of other variables in play.
I wasn't a big fan of Slaton coming out of WVU but I really liked that we picked him up because he gives us another dimension on offense. I think he was by far the most intriguing pick up of the draft, followed by Okam.
