Well i believe its true. People he can play on the court with. Head Battier Novak Any guys who dont controll the rock on the floor besides high-post passers he will be alright. Look at his career and who played the most with him and his role on the court. He can play with Yao the pick n roll and probably with Scola too just because he runs the floor. Mobley Hill Turkaglu These guys dont controll the rock. He is basically in the same mold as a Baron Davis type excells in run n gun offenses just like Baron Davis as he did in Orlando. Any guys on the wings or back court who demand the ball he wont be as efficient on the court unless he finds ways to get open. T-Mac James Alston Marbury Nate These guys take his real abilities away from him. I think he has a role on this team but only with certain brand of players. I think it would be best for him to be on the court with guys like Novak/Battier/Head because he will get them involved as well as himself. Then there is situations as to were late in the game if T-Mac is not going to attack pass it to Francis he will get to the line and finish if not pass it down low. But then you dont want him taking shots away from Yao/T-Mac either so i think he should come off the bench in a special rotation and special situations where he would excell.
This is one of the worst proposed trades I've ever seen around here. We lose two starters - both good locker room guys. One is our starting point guard who, as we've seen this year when he is injured, is one of the most integral parts to the Rockets winning. The other is the possible defensive player of the year and is, at worst, one of the ten best defenders in the NBA. We also lose Chuck Hayes, who is also an amazing defender and rotation guy and Luther Head. Another rotation guy. We gain Darius Miles, a proven locker room cancer and albatross contract, who we will pay 9 million per year to sit on our bench and eat hot dogs. We gain the rights to Rudy Fernandez, who may not even ever come to the NBA and seems to only be inclined to consider it this year if he can get playing time. I'm thinking having T-Mac at his position wouldn't make him feel good about the prospect of getting big minutes. Aside from all of that, he's completely unproven and may be a bust. We gain Joel Freeland, who again, is unproven and may never even make it to the NBA. We also gain James Jones, who nobody in the world thinks is anywhere near as good as Battier but you. We do not receive a replacement point guard in this deal. We do save ONE MILLION MEASLY DOLLARS! Seriously? For 1 million dollars worth of luxury tax space you're willing to make us a considerably worse defensive team. Remove several team favorites from the locker room of one of the best chemistry teams in the NBA. Screw us out of our starting point guard and bring Darius friggin' Miles into our locker room? I've honestly never seen a worst proposed trade. I am in awe of it.
I'll forever say go hard at Ron Artest. He and Adelman get along great, his contract is relatively low, and HE HAS TALENT!! I'll take the risk of his baggage anyday. These are the moves a franchise must make. All franchises take major risks to get to that next level. Lakers trading for 18yr old Kobe, Spurs taking the chance and tanking for Duncan, Celtics trading away draft picks and half the team for KG and Ray Allen while praying the bench can develop. Heat getting Shaq. Risks are necessary. We don't have to to it, but at least make a strong push.
How would you feel if we made this trade with the indiana pacers They draft Kevin Love or Darrel Arthur Indiana Sends...Draft rights to One of those guys Jeff Foster Houston sends 2008 first rounder Chuck Hayes Rafer Alston Gives us that back up center in foster....Adds a big PF in Love/if we get Darrel Arthur then we can have him as our lamar odom because he can play some SF This would give us some flexibility in trade Bjax, Luther Head, and maybe novak giving us trade amount of about 8 million to get a Ron Artest or Mike Miller. Use MLE on backup SG Roster would end up C: Yao Ming/ Jeff Foster PF: Scola/Love/Landry SF: Artest/Battier/FILLER SG: Tmac/MLE SG/ FILLER PG:Steve Francis/Arron Brooks/FILLER
FWIW... Kevin Pritchard (a former NBA player, former Spurs GM and current Blazers GM) was sitting with the Blazers' broadcast team during Q2 of last night's Grizz game. Some paraphrasing.... * The Blazers have 3 players who are untouchable...Oden, Aldridge and Roy. * Of the remaining roster, there is about an equal number of inquiries for trade. Pritchard found this unusual in his experiences but made note that they have built a fairly deep...though currently inexperieinced...team. * They will make all reasonable efforts to bring back Joel Pryzbilla. * They are appreciative of what Darius Miles has meant to the team and of his efforts to return. But he is absolutely through as an NBA player. The knee damage is far worse than Kenyon Martin or Amare. (Pritchard's words, not mine). * Pritchard likens Rudy Fenandez to the Kings' Kevin Martin. IMHO, you'll have to have compromising pictures of KP to even initiate talks about Fernandez. He's done...why in hell you SOF's can't come to grips with it is baffling. He got beat out as the ORL starter by Jameer Nelson, was traded to NY for Penny Hardaway and for Zach Randolph as a salary match to POR who promptly waived him. In both trades, it was to free up cap space for signing FA's. Francis came into the Rocket's camp overweight and with little knowledge of the play book. He was a $2.4m risk they took in case Rafer couldn't grasp elements of a motion/cutting/high-post offense. The end result was Francis couldn't beat out even Rafer and Brooks moved into the rotation over him because he still can't get past having the ball in his hands for long portions of a shot clock. The absolute drop-dead best case scenario is he's next season's BJax with fewer minutes. It would have been a nice reunion...but somewhere reality set in.
His career is done. He hasn't been a locker room cancer in the last couple of years. Raef LaFrentz's massive contract for more years got them Brandon Roy. A single player who's been a major turnaround for that franchise. Even with the 22 game streak or Yao healthy the Rockets were never totally convincing. A 50+ win season, this year it's keeping up with the Joneses. It's going to hurt. It could be grand or if the season is a bust Miles will be an expiring contract or even off the books via a medical retirement.
I thought with what happened that francis would come in lighter and ready to compete. I thought he could be 12pts 4asst and 4rebs. What was clear is he thought his old name would carry him and he would play his way into shape. He had a sense of entitlement that made no sense. From the presser to just being overweight. Once a guy has knee problems like francis, it would have been a good idea to get lighter as he got older to maintain quickness. The hard facts are, he's done. Gater- There are a few players I like on that Blazers team. Jack and Outlaw are a couple. I could see making a move for Jack as a backup pg and outlaw as a backup to shane and tracy. I actually wanted to the rox to draft jack instead of head.
That would be great, but why would Indiana give up a lottery pick for Alston, Hayes and a Pick in the mid to low 20's?
but this move doesn't make us better. It doesn't even make us potentially better. The best possible scenario for this trade is that we are weakened considerably at point guard. SF is a wash (and that's going along with your optimistic belief that James Jones is as good as Battier), and Rudy Fernandez pans out as a great back up to T-Mac. I'm not sure what you're expectations of Joel Freeland are, but for the sake of argument we'll say he becomes a serviceable backup. Even if all of that happens, we saved 1 million measly dollars to lose our starting point guard and slightly upgrade our bench. Personally, I doubt Freeland will be an upgrade over the contributions of Chuck Hayes. Worst case scenario: Rudy Fernandez decides he'd rather stay in Spain ala Fran Vasquez and we never see him holding a Rockets jersey. Joel Freeland never turns out to be an NBA player. James Jones is nowhere near as good as Battier. And Darius Miles is Darius Miles. Oh, but we saved 1 million measly dollars. I just don't see how this trade has any upside whatsoever. At least until Miles is in the final year of his contract. And again, that is only potential upside that could net us nothing. I'd be more angry than I was when they traded Rudy Gay and Swift for Battier if it went down.
Apparently, you're one of the many folks around here under the misguided impression that Steve Francis still has gas in the tank. He doesn't. His career is over. He is simply not good enough to be in the NBA anymore. I don't know what it will take to make people believe that. He failed in Orlando. He failed in New York. In Portland they paid him 30 million dollars just to go away. And he failed this year with the Rockets. I doubt he'll be back next season. Second, I agree that Jeff Foster would be more useful on our roster than Chuck Hayes currently is as our third string PF, considering Foster could fulfill that role as well as that of backup center. And further, I like him about as well as anyone in the NBA in that role. Where we part ways is on the draft pick. You're going to think I'm crazy, but I don't think either Kevin Love or Darrell Arthur will be good enough in the NBA to justify sacrificing our only legit starting point guard. In fact, I'm not sure either of those guys will ever find themselves as starting power forwards in the NBA. But even if they exceed my expectations for them, they still have to beat out Scola and Landry for playing time. I don't think they can do it. Meanwhile, we've got a big gaping hole at PG that you expect to be filled by a guy who couldn't even play his way into the rotation this season and our current third string PG. As with the trade proposed by Hooroo, I don't see how this trade makes any sense at all. It's my opinion that, as sad as this sounds, Rafer Alston is nearly untouchable until we find another way to address the PG situation. Francis will likely never see substantial minutes in the NBA again. And though Brooks has played well this season, he's hardly proven that he's ready to be our starter. Personally, I have doubts he can ever be a starter because his size makes him such a defensive liability. p.s. I apologize if my attacks on this trade and Hooroo's are harsh. I'll admit I'm not in the best of moods today.
Fernandez has the potential to be McGrady's starting partner in the backcourt. Either one could slot into PG. With Scola and Landry also playing minutes at C. I wouldn't expect a third option C (Freeland) to get off the bench. Morey got permission to speak with to Scola to learn if he was going stay in Europe or head over to the NBA before making that trade. 1 million dollars that could mean being over or under luxury tax.
I would agree that that is important if this move was a lateral move or a move that could potentially make us better. However, I think this move would make us considerably worse. It's my opinion that the trade you proposed would cause us to go from the second best defensive squad in the NBA to, at best, a middle of the pack defensive team. We don't have the offensive fire power to overcome that. Additionally, I am not optimistic that either McGrady or Fernandez can be our starting point guard. Hell, I'm not even sure if Fernandez will be good enough to play in the NBA. And McGrady cannot match up with point guards defensively.
A couple notes: 1. It is in KP's and Portland's best interest to portray DMiles as totally through. If somebody else signs him and plays him in 10 games, they are stuck with 2 more years of his salary counting against them. So, who knows if this is the truth or not or to what extent damage is to DMiles. 2. It is in every GM's best interests to pump up their player's values sky high. Fernandez hasn't played one minute in the NBA. He's another first round gamble. Every draft is a crapshoot. Just look at past history. Fernandez may be a player, and he might be a bust. He's a Euro. It's even harder to tell on them. These reasons are why you take everything a GM says with a grain of salt. They just can't afford to reveal too much actual facts to the public.
u know guy b diddy will opt out more than likely. now saying that we would probaly need a sign and trade with some expiring money involved which we should have. he is owed 17 million next year so we would probaly have to give him like a three year 30 million contract just to be fair. the good thing with this would be he and tracy comes off the books in the same year i believe or close to it. Maybe something with bobby jackson involved would get it done being that bobby is due a little over the 6 million next year. a line up of t mac, b-diddy, shane, yao, and scola would be really nice. with landry and rafer coming from bench area. this would put us in win now mode for 3 years hopefully we could get 2 championships in those 2 years. this really does not have to be a pipe dream, because to make a sign and trade work you have to make the money close. saying that we would not be adding a lot of money to our books.
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TJ FORD? You kidding me? No way, he shoots way too much ask the Raptors fans, Calderon is wayyyyy better
I fell asleep during the Cavs/Wizards game and had a dream that Arenas and Jamison decided to split our MLE to join the Rockets. I was so bummed when I woke up.
