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2006 Western Conference Semifinals - Spurs vs. Mavs

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Rockets34Legend, May 6, 2006.

  1. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Member

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    Why does it always seem like the refs screw up ANY team playing against the Mavs? I mean if the freakin' defending NBA champs can't get any respect, how will ANY other team fair against them?

    Just pathetic! I have absolutely no doubt that Cuban scares and intimidates the **** out of NBA refs; everytime Cuban runs his mouth off he gets his money's worth.

    Absolutely pathetic officiating!
     
  2. thewaterox

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    No doubt Duncan has a target painted on him. It's like the refs were trying to foul him out of the game. Let the refs do that to Dirk in any of the up coming games and Cuban will have a cow.

    The NBA better do something to clean up the officiating because this game looked like it was handed to the Mavs. The Mavs don’t deserve to be up 2-1 and I hope the Spurs can bounce back and beat Dallas.
     
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    He is a better actress than Katharine Hepburn and hotter than Nicole Kidman. He is the reigning Queen of Dallas.
     
  4. R0ckets03

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    Thats just freakin stupid. The Mavs couldn't stop Duncan either, but the refs sure helped em out in that regard.

    The Spers have changed their scheme on Harris late in the game. They were trapping him and forcing him to give up the ball. The Mavs had no answer for Spers. Well I guess they had one...had that freakin flopper drive in and flail his arms like a little school girl.
     
  5. Hydhypedplaya

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    Was anyone else prayin that Dirk injured himself bad enough to not be able to participate in the rest of the postseason?? Cuz I know I sure as hell was...
     
  6. Matchman

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    don't worry, Dirk and Mavs are famous for choking in the playoffs.
    even if SA Spurs lose the series, Pistons will absolutely pwn them with their lock down D

    God punish those who do not have any basketball skills but try to flop their way to championship

    Refs lead the series 2 to 1 against Spurs
     
  7. Hydhypedplaya

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    Do the refs who officiated the game go back and rewatch the game and the calls they made to see how many errors they made? Or do they not care? Or is it a rule in the NBA in which they have to go back and watch video from the game?
     
  8. superden

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    i started watching the game not really sure who i wanted to cheer for. after watching the game wayyy too many old memories came back from last season. it is like deja vu. i never seen sooooooo many calls for dirk when NO ONE TOUCHES HIM. at least 2 on duncan (one when he leans into duncan and he has his hands straight up, the other when HE STEPS ON DUCAN'S foot and trips and falls), him FALLING OUT OF BOUNCE and for some reason gets the call, tripping call when terry fell, but when parker gets tripped the refs somehow swallowed their whistle, when dirk got that foul with 7.9 seconds left when it was quite obvious during replays that NO ONE touched him... i can go on forever and ever and i don't even like the spurs.


    MUCK THE FAVS :mad:
     
  9. KeepKenny

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    This series has made me wonder why teams even bother trying to get homecourt advantage in the regular season. The Spurs are defending champs, and the number one seed, but in game 2, the borderline calls still went to the mavs. Now that the mavs have homecourt advantage, they get more calls on their floor than I've ever seen. I say if you're going to give home cooking, then do it consistently.

    This all reminds me of when we stole 2 in dallas through great play, and we seemingly had an unsurmountable homecourt advantage going back to houston. But nope, we didn't get the benefit of a single freakin call here in Htown, and we were in fact screwed in many key situations on our home floor. It's just funny how these things always work out favoring dallas. :rolleyes:

    I think the Spurs don't even have to win game 4 to win this series. Say the spurs go down 3-1, then they'll surely get some calls at home to extend to 6. Then they'll probably get a fair game in dallas for game 6, which they could win, and then they'd have game 7 in San Antonio. We all know Dallas sure as hell aint winning a game 7 in San Antonio. You may say that I'm going a bit far in terms of projecting how the games will be reffed, but I've seen too much of this crap over the years.

    Edit: Just did a quick freethrow count in the fourth quarter. Dallas had 22 attempts, Spurs had 9. I'm not necessarily saying the spurs should have had more (other than the obvious Parker trip), but 22 for dallas was shades of Game 6 in 2002.
     
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    game 6, lakers/kings. kings called for an almost impossible 16 fouls, lakers shoot 27 free throws. while this game apparently came close, it was still only 13 fouls and 22 free throws. so imagine another 25% added onto it.


    as for the last foul on duncan, how can people say they shouldn't call it? he was moving and his foot tripped the guy driving. it's not like you can just ignore the guy with the ball suddenly spraining his ankle on another guys foot, if the defender is moving. you certainly can't trip someone w/o a foul so just b/c the foot comes down on top of instead of in front of your foot doesn't mean it's not a foul.



    and on the one hand, i was a little shocked at dirk's comments on stackhouse, especially after getting criticized for getting on his teammates last year. i thought he would just laugh it off since they won, but he didn't. on the other hand, i was wondering what the hell stackhouse was doing also. i was even thinking he better hit the rim so he just slams it off the backboard like it's the first time he's ever picked up a basketball. amazingly stupid thing to do. worst case scenario is you accidentally make it and SA still has to take it out on the baseline instead of up the court and that shot by horry only ties it instead of possibly winning it. even if it shouldn't have been nowitzki, i'm glad someone called him out for his stupidity. you can't tell me he can't get within 3 feet of the rim when trying to hit it.
     
  11. KeepKenny

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    Parker got blatantly tripped without a call, so apparently you can.

    Duncan's sixth foul was pretty much one you had to call, but many of his fouls before that were so weak. He's clearly the best player on the floor, but he can't challenge a devin harris or josh howard drive without a whistle. I really miss the days when contact going to the basket was inevitable and a given, not this whistle happy crap. The game took 3 hours, and it wasn't even OT. Do they really think people want to watch a freethrow contest?
     
  12. jsb

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    The best thing that could happen to the NBA is teams like the Mavs, Suns and even the new and improved Pistons to win. Get rid of ugly ball/Van Gundy and Larry Brown ball forever and let the skills and athleticism of this game take over again and make it great to not only cheer your team on but to watch some excitement again.

    Who in the world likes to watch 80 to 75 games when you have the greatest athletes in the world. Bring the game back and see some excitement and scoring return. GO MAVS
     
  13. R0ckets03

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    David Stern is just happy that the final scores are over a 100 points. That way they can claim that the NBA is a fun exciting high flying league.

    But anyone with who watches the NBA regularly knows the scores are being artificially inflated by the constant whistles.
     
  14. GATER

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    The calls go to the aggressor. The Mavs' overall team speed makes the Spurs look lethargic. IMHO, the primary reason for any (real or imagined) foul disparity.

    But it sure is nice not seeing Ginobili get unbelieveably favorable calls as he dives into whomever is defending him.
     
  15. Jugdish

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    Ugh.

    <img src="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/JugdishOhYeah/bag_of_jerky.jpg">
     
  17. francis 4 prez

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    well i did only get in right after duncan's 6th (got in just as they were showing the replay) so i can't comment on all the other fouls but it does sound like there were quite a few going against the spurs. nevertheless...

    that's all i'm really saying. a guy can't have his ankle sprained by another guy and you run to the other end of the court for a 5 on 4 b/c an obvious foul wasn't called. not that parker should be tripped w/o a foul either, but you have to call this one.

    well duncan doesn't seem to be good at challenging shots anyway in these playoffs. i swear there have been at least 4 or 5 times a guard has taken it right in at him and he has either just moved out of the way and allowed the layup like no self-respecting shotblocker/defender would, or just had the guy score right over him like he wasn't there. a guy like hakeem would've swatted 3 or 4 of those and scared the guy into missing the other. duncan just watches, and not even in games where fouls are a problem.


    while i never minded it much (and even reveled in the defenive intensity that just seemed to ooze out of the screen during, say, a knicks/heat game), a huge segment of nba fans seemed to hate all the low-scoring, defensive-minded stuff and got tired of all the "wrestling matches" and such so we're in the minority. if people didn't respond well to lots of contact and 77-76 knicks/heat games, the nba as a business had to change it and they are trying. people are just too big and strong and fast today to expect 1980s type scores if you allow tons of physical contact at all points on the floor. i mean the pistons were holding teams below 70 semi-regularly the season before they changed. the old era did give us the greatest defensive game of all time, the 73-67 pacers/pistons game where prince blocked miller's layup at the end. a record 26 blocks (19 pistons), amazing rotations, the most physical post play i've ever seen, guys practically being knocked down on drives with no call. but those days are gone.
     
  18. TECH

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    Ginobili and Dirk both flop and get away with crap. If Gino can't step up his game like Dirk, they'll get beat.
     
  19. The Cat

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    Are you kidding me? By that logic, when each team is in the penalty, they shouldn't even try to play basketball. They should just have their best free throw shooter run at his defender and step on his foot and fall down. After all, that's a foul, right? It would be by the analysis you gave above.

    It wasn't anywhere remotely close to a legitimate foul - much less a foul worthy of fouling out one of the greatest players to ever play the game with a minute left in a 1-point game. And especially when an actual trip wasn't called just a few minutes earlier when Parker was cutting to the basket.
     
  20. dandorotik

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    Have you ever worked in a restaurant and had that one customer who you knew would always complain and be a PIA? You really don't want to give them special treatment, but you know you're going to because you just don't feel like dealing with the crap? Mark Cuban.

    Of course, every team can do what he does, so maybe it's not fair to single him out. Oh, OK, I just can't stand the Mavericks, so I'm reaching for excuses. But I defy anyone to watch the 4th quarter and tell me Dallas wasn't bailed out on 50% of the plays they made.
     

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