I agree. I would be happy if the Titans picked him up. Jeff Fisher and Steve McNair are class guys. Think of what it would do to our rivalry.
Alot of Titan and Texan Fans are going to be watching the Rose Bowl tomorrow to see the potential top 3 picks in the upcoming draft. All I know after watching the Fiesta Bowl is that A.J. Hawk looks like a monster. What a stud linebacker. My hope for tomorrow's Rose Bowl game is that it is a high scoring affair highlighting the talents of Bush, Leinart, and V. Young. Having Vince Young enter the draft only helps the teams with the top 3 picks. It makes trading down that much more possible. With that said, I think the Titans would be very tempted to take V. Young with the third pick. McNair has already stated that he wants to return to the Titans next year. I think he would provide a more cap friendly deal/extension knowing that the Titans drafted V. Young. He has served as a father figure to V. Young (often times having Young over at his Ranch in the offseason and attending various Longhorn games). Plus McNair may only be playing two more years at the most (as a starter) in which time he would happily tutor V. Young and pass over the starting QB job to him when he retires. I think that would be a perfect scenario for Steve McNair. The fact that no one ever took McNair under their wings when he was a rookie still leaves a bad taste in McNairs mouth. He would be a great mentor for V. Young as a Titan. With all the injuries that McNair normally deals with in any given season, V. Young is bound to get some playing time along the way. Obviously in this scenario, they will have most likely traded away Billy Volek. However, as a Titans fan, I am worried about drafting V. Young as he is not the "prototypical" pocket passer. He has a high ceiling and sometimes you have to take chances. By not selecting V. Young, On the other hand it will give the Titans an excellent opportunity to move back and gain additional picks as some team will want to take the chance on either V. Young or whoever they have their eyes on for the third pick. The draft is still a good 4 months away... Seems so far away....
You make it sound as if it is a given that V Young declares, Dream34. I think that is far from the case.
Raven, I understand that Vince has stated for the record that he plans on returning for his senior year. My hope is that he decides to forego his senior year and enter the upcoming draft. My comments were made on my assumption that he would enter the draft. If the Texans win tomorrow I think he is coming out. Even if they lose my money is on him entering the draft. I just think for the record he will look at being a potential top 3-5 pick. The other scenario is that some team falls in love with him and jumps up to the second spot for V. Young. I have read that the Saints scouts have him rated very highly. So it may be possible he goes as high as #2 (but I doubt that he will go higher than Leinart). Yes he could do better next year (but he could also do worse and worry about the injury factor). But from his standpoint if he has an idea that the Titans are seriously interested in him and that appeals to him. Than what better way of entering the NFL and possibly going into a situation that will work well for him (from a growth perspective). I really think the whole Steve McNair connection is interesting and will play a role into his decision making as to if he should enter the draft. As I stated earlier, I think it benefits the entire draft class the more quality juniors that decide to enter (especially the teams with the top picks).
Nothing makes for a better relationship than hanging out with the younger guy that will eventually steal your job and take away your non-guaranteed salary. I don't buy this McNair bonding connection story as a reason to leave school early. Sounds like a Titans writer feel-good story after a miserable year. I could counter with the fact that the Titans are at least 2 years away from being competitive, that Volek deserves a shot, and the Titans D is horrendous. AJ Hawk would be a much better selection for them. Then again, their RB corp is so weak that Vince would have a free pass to run like crazy.
I think it will be very exciting for the franchise to get Bush. IMO I dont see Young coming out, not only based on his comments but by coming back he has a chance to win the Heisman and be the #1 pick next year. It has to be a tough choice with all the money wating for him
Mateo, From reading your last post you make it sound as if Steve McNair is planning on playing for the next 10 years. He is going to be playing year to year. I think he has two years left tops as a starter. If V. Young declares and if the Titans drafted him I can assure you that Steve is not going to be pissed that the Titans drafted his replacement. He has already stated in numerous interviews that he has no issues if the Titans draft a QB in the current draft as his heir apparent. I think he wants to stay a Titan and the Titans want him back. Even if they draft a QB, McNair will be the starter for next year. Probably the year after if he stays healthy. Of course $$$ talks so lets see what he does when it comes time to his contract renogitiation. But Buss Cook (McNair's agent) and Floyd Reese have a good working relationship. They will work something out. Vince Young will not adversely impact Steve McNair or his contract situation. Hell if Steve wanted to play longer he could always be the back-up QB for the Titans. As a die hard Titans fan I hope Steve McNair retires a Titan. He is a true class act. I am a Billy Volek fan but if McNair comes back next year as the starter Volek will be traded. Drew Rosenhouse will see to it that he does. Plus the Titans need a 3rd round pick (since they traded theirs away to the Bills for Travis Henry) which they should get for trading Volek. I agree with you that A.J. Hawk looks like a stud linebacker (which is also a need for this team). Hell most positions are a need for the Titans... I would love to have A.J. Hawk and Keith Bulluck. The Titans have numerous holes to fill. I could also see them drafting D-Brickshaw as quality Left Tackles are hard to find. So many choices....
i posted this in another thread :: so do we pick up reggie mcneal w/ one of our later picks? this guy didn't have the O-line at A&M that vince had at UT, and yet he still managed to pick up yards. i say we draft him, and groom him to replace carr. in the event that he's already picked, we trade carr to the team that drafted him. any backers? reggie mcneal has game, guys. can you imagine him and bush in the backfield? reggie-reggie! this guy is overlooked simply b/c a&m sucked this year b/c of their offensive line and injuries and coaching. both him and vince graduated the same year out of houston [lufkin & madison, i believe], and they were ranked #2 & #1, respectively. i doubt anyone on the board would keep carr over vince young. so if this guy is nearly as good [or maybe just as good] as vince, why not draft him?
Updated: Jan. 4, 2006, 11:27 AM ET Texas' Young leaning toward dodging NFL draft By Len Pasquarelli ESPN.com Vince Young hasn't studied the 2006 NFL draft nearly as much as he has the Southern California defense that he will face in the Rose Bowl on Wednesday evening, in a game that will determine the national champion. But the University of Texas quarterback and some of the people advising him about his football future have perused the composition of the top 10 teams in the draft. And the makeup of the top 10, especially the franchises with the first five choices in April, might be enough to convince Young to return to the Longhorns for his senior season in 2006. The Heisman Trophy runner-up, Young has indicated this week that he plans to return to school to complete his eligibility, and sources close to the Texas quarterback confirmed to ESPN.com that he is clearly leaning that way. One reason he would return to Austin, those sources said, is the sense that, despite his enormous potential, Young might not be selected among the top five picks in the NFL lottery. Many of the teams in the top 10 of the draft order have invested heavily on quarterbacks in recent years, and they might not be ready yet to give up on those picks, or inclined to use another high choice on the position. Of the teams in the top five, just one, the New Orleans Saints, who own the second overall pick, have a dire need at quarterback. The New York Jets, with the No. 4 pick, are uncertain about the physical status of starter Chad Pennington, a first-round pick in 2000 who has undergone two shoulder surgeries in less than a year. But the Jets have a considerable financial investment in Pennington and will likely sign a veteran free agent as a contingency plan. Three weeks ago, ESPN.com reported that Young and his family, working within the NCAA guidelines, were determining the process by which the Longhorns standout would meet with potential agents and evaluate suitors seeking to represent him. Key players in the process were Houston attorney Major Adams and Young's former high school coach, Ray Seals. But the process has not moved forward very much in recent weeks, primarily because it appears Young will eschew the 2006 draft. Young has not completely decided against going into the '06 draft, and could revisit the notion, sources said. Notable is that Texas coach Mack Brown has demonstrated a rare ability to keep underclass prospects from bolting early to the professional ranks. Underclass players have until Jan. 15 to petition NFL officials for inclusion in the 2006 draft. No matter how Young performs in the Rose Bowl, he and the people counseling him feel he probably won't move ahead of Matt Leinart, his counterpart from Southern Cal in the game, in the eyes of NFL scouts. League talent evaluators privately harbor some doubts about Leinart, especially over his arm strength, but he is still viewed at this early stage of the draft analysis process as the top senior quarterback prospect. For all his athleticism and play-making skills, there are scouts who acknowledge that Young has some areas of his game, like his release point, that need work and that he would benefit from another college season. There are, however, no guarantees Young will be the top quarterback prospect in the 2007 draft, either, given the presence of Notre Dame star Brady Quinn. Young, 22, has completed 414 of 678 passes in his college career, for 5,773 yards, with 44 touchdown passes and 28 interceptions. He has also run for 2,927 yards and 34 scores on 438 carries.
I haven't seen any evidence to indicate McNeal is anywhere NEAR as good as Vince Young. If they were rated closely coming out of HS, then they have gone different directions developmentally since then.
After watching last nights game how many of you still feel that Vince Young is going to return for his senior year at Texas.... Vince would be crazy to return for his senior year. His stock just hit the roof last night. He has no where to go but down after last nights game. Houston is sitting in a very nice position... I am just hoping the Titans do what is necessary to get this future superstar....
With all due respect the Houston fans everywhere (of which I am one, sans the Texans,) I sure am glad to see some Titan fans here. Awesome! I never knew Houston would ever get another NFL franchise, hence, I followed the Oilers to Tennessee. Too late to change. That said, I am COMPLETELY sold on Vince Young after last night. I'm usually one for a more "pure pocket passer" type ... but damn, Young really CAN do it all. He's like Mike Vick, only good. Picking 3rd, I really do think think now that it's a no lose pick for the Titans. I do think that Vince will come out, as the above poster said. His stock has peaked. The Titans will get either Bush, Leinart, OR Vince. A no lose, IMO. Now if Pac-Man would just shut his trap ...
Gene The Pig (You have to tell me the meaning behind your screen name): Good to see a fellow Titan fan... There are a few of us on this BBS. Without question, if (more likely "when") Vince decides to go Pro it will be a windfall not only for the Texans but also for the Titans. There is a big drop off from the #3 pick (trade value wise) to the #4 pick. So I think you have 3 potential #1 picks with Vince, Bush and Linart. So it will be hard for any of the top 3 teams to go wrong. Now all I am hoping for is that Jay Cutler has an incredible Senior Bowl and good Combine in Indy. Than we can sit back and watch his stock rise. If the Titans do not move up to #1 than they are still sitting very pretty and some team could offer them a nice package for their #3 pick. Now if somehow Vince Young is sitting at #3 when the Titans pick and they do not select him. Well that would just cause me to puke on the spot and start questioning my alliegance to the Titans. I think Vince Young is destined to be a Titan and learn under the wings of his mentor Steve McNair. Please god, please let Vince Young be a Titan. Another day closer to the draft.
WERD! The screen name was a joke, really. I have a buddy who STILL worships Kiss & I absolutely LOATHE Gene Simmons. So the first place I went after buying a 'puter back in '98 was the Kiss BBS where he hung out, & f'd with him as GTP. That's what friends are for, right? Yeah, it seems I (we?) spend more time wishing for front office's to make moves (Astros, Rox, Titans) these days than caring about the actual games. I mean, I DO ... but man ... it's hard to be a fan sometimes.
FWIW, Jordan Gross has apparently had a hell of a season and some NFL writers I've read said he should have been in the pro bowl this year (pro bowl Oline voting is pretty terrible, lots of guys make it on rep alone.
One knock I've heard about D'Brick is that he is reluctant to play against good pash rushers. Is this accurate?
