I posted this Friday- If I was the Texans I would have my board looking like this- 1. Vince Young 2. Mario Williams 3. Reggie Bush 4. Brick the only reason I would put Bush over Brick is Bush might turn out better than expected and I wouldn't pass over him for someone who doesn't have the impact of a pass rusher or QB. Apparantly Mario is better than VY, I can live with that.
I don't know to be honest. They have always said it didn't but maybe it did. There are so many crazy runors out there right now. Somebody said the guy Bush owes money to is a ganster (who spent time in jail) and there's a rumor that there was a hit out on him. I know the NFL had extra security because his family had received death threats but i hadn't heard anything about Reggie directly until that. I don't believe it but it's something I heard.
I don't mean to attack you but -- How is it you claim picking Williams was a financial situation when everyone in the organization and most members of the media say it was a football decision. McNar and CC both said it was a football situation, and McNair went further to state that they could've had a contract with Bush but Kubes wanted Super Mario and CC agreed. McNair is not known to be cheap -- I seriously doubt the Texans didn't pick Bush because of a million dollar difference, if it was even that.
They said when the Bush talks stalled the texans sent the exact same contract proposal to both campos. Bush's agent turned it down and Mario agreed.
kas13 you didn't post insider information you searched around the internet and found tidbits and posted them on the site and you were called out on it: you posted this as insider information and it was reported nationally the day before you posted. you weren't just wrong about about a few things you were wrong about EVERYTHING, then you hid from the board for the entire draft weekend. doc rocket is an insider and he is humble about what he brings to the board, you are a arrogant fake Kas13. [ i'm guessing 13 is your age.]
You appear to have known a few days ago: "To answer someone else's question, the Texans aren't concerned at all about the house situation with Bush. They did look into it but it doesn't effect their opinion on him whatsoever."
That is direct conflict to what the Texans management and John McClain both said. I heard Casserly, McNair, and McClain say that they could have had either player signed before Sat. morning.
I know what's been said. They said on ESPN and 610 (this is not coming from me) this morning that Bush and Mario were both faxed the same contract offers and Bush's agent said no. The texans didn't want a holdout, they have been saying it all along. When 75% of Texas already wants to burn down Reliant Stadium what do you expect CC to say. We picked Mario because he was willing to sign? They have to say it was a football decision (a poor one at that). We had an amazing draft except that pick. I don't understand what's so great about Mario Williams. 75% of his sacks came in 3 games against crap teams. I would be willing to bet that most of you hadn't even heard of him before the draft process started. He had an amzing combine and is an amzing athlete and that's what made him the #1 pick. From a personal standpoint, I can't be satisfied with that. I've supported Carr and stated I don't think we need a QB but I honestly would have rather had VY.
Really dip****? What about all the rockets information I posted? The workouts, injuries, ect?? You weren't around for that huh? You can call me whatever you'd like. I could careless what you think. Oh, and that was one thing that i misssed. Sorry I don't spend all my time on the internet searching for things like you do. i just posted what I heard. Just because it was already on the internet doesn't mean anything.
That's what they've been saying the whole time so that's what i posted. I don't have any clue about this team anymore. They have said numerous things and went in different directions. That's why I said I really have no idea.
Again, I could careless what you think too. After posting all the rockets stuff all of a sudden I'm a fake. What a bunch of hypocrites. The same people who were probably huddling around the internet on Friday night looking for quotes instead of doing something with friends or family. Your picture is right though, that's what happened to the Texans.
The sign/don't sign is the only scenario that makes sense out of what happened. Again (third time?) if you don't sign Bush before the pick is made you don't have any leverage. He could hold out for the first $50 million dollar guaranateed contract if he wanted. The Texans went 2-14, if they drafted Reggie and didn't get him into camp they would be the laughing stock of the planet. If they didn't get him into camp they couldn't design the offense for him and his first $10 million dollar year would be wasted. It made sense for Reggie to hold off on signing the contract because the team holding the most draft trade value that could have moved up for him was NY. If he could have gotten himself drafted in NY he could make more money in endorsements than he would make playing football. Football is a business and they way this went down was good business for the Texans.
Read between the lines. Yeah, they could have had Bush signed......if they had signed the contract that the Bush camp offered to them. So, money wasn't a factor as far as signing but the difference in the money for the difference in the player and the difficulty in dealing with the Bush camp is what got them to thinking of taking Mario Williams. Something happened in those negotiations with Bush that turned off Mcnair and Kubiak. Nobody knows what for sure it was, but there were some rumors that Bush's mother got involved with McNair. I THINK what probably happened is during the negotiation process McNair starting getting bad vibes from the agent and family and got to thinking about the long term relationship with these people, about whether he really wanted to deal with them long term when Bush's contract came up again, and so he then went back to the drawing board with Kubiak and CC. And I think that Kubiak and CC were more than willing to go with MW because they had him so highly rated on the board, at least a very, very close second to Bush. I'm sorry but where there's smoke, there is fire. I know CC said that they spoke to Reggie and Reggie convinced them that none of it was true, but the combination of the allegations, knowing that there was another agency group claiming a piece of Reggie, and having to deal with Reggie's current team caused the Texans to realize that this kid, as great as he is and will be, on the business side was going to be he.. to deal with and that combined with the fact that they had MW rated so highly, and was willing to sign and get it on convinced them that MW was the pick. If they did not have MW rated so highly, the story may have come out differently. I, for one, happen to believe that MW would have been the top pick in about 7 or 8 of the last 10 drafts. Reggie was supposedly the highest rated player to ever come out of college. MW supposedly is the second highest rated player to ever come out of college. It was a unique draft from that perspective. And the whole "trade down" scenarios don't work because they wanted either Reggie or MW, they had them ranked so highly, and Mario was not getting past NO. So, the only doable deal would have been to deal with NO for the #2 pick and NO wasn't moving. I'm not saying I agree with their ratings. I, for one, wanted us to bring in VY and trade Carr. I thought and still think that in the long run it would be our best move. I still think VY will be the primo player in this draft when it is evaluated 10 years from now. But Reggie and MW will be close behind. And I actually like the pick of MW to anchor the defense IF he really is as good as they say he is. Hey, dude already talks like Reggie White, got the raspy voice thing working already. Hopefully he will impact our defense in the same way and cause us to forget about wanting the other 2.
obviously you do care. if you want to post insider info just try to be humble about it like doc rocket.
What about the NFL conspiracy? The league came to the Texans and said why don't you let NO draft Reggie. We have already committed to keeping the team there and we have a Monday night game already scheduled for this year. Reggie would sure help those folks out. (Just like major league baseball letting the Yankees win the American League after 9/11)
It's ok man. **** happens. I am still not convinced that Mario was their first option. Things can change without notice. The Texans will never admit the actual reasons behind it. Personally, I just want the team to win. If this is the player that they picked, who am I to question it? I was excited when I thought Bush was coming, but those legal issues could have been a distraction. I am only asking Mario to bring it every game.
No, actually I don't care. If I really did I would have responded to all the individuals who took shots at me this weekend. My whole point was to point out that I had given a large amount of Rockets info (including descriptions of each players workouts) injuries,ect... and all these people say thanks, that they respect you, appreciate it, ect.. Now, the Texans switch at the last minute and everyone's talking trash, calling me a fake and so on. I just put up a simple post and will respond to anyone now. Everyone said I would be here today (I am), that i would switch screen names (I didn't) so I don't care. There are posters on this board whom I like and get along with. It's not like i was the only person hearing these things (Jeff had said he heard the same things I had before any of it was reported). Believe whatever you'd like though. I'm not going to post any insider information here anymore because if something goes wrong then this is what i get. No thanks, I'll pass.
