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2006 NBA Finals [Miami Heat vs Dallas Mavericks]

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by WhoMikeJames, Jun 3, 2006.

  1. dandorotik

    dandorotik Member

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    Isn't it funny that Cuban was talking on Letterman about how he was a main catalyst for the rule changes regarding rough play? For the referees calling more fouls? And then his team loses on a touch-foul call? Classic.
     
  2. Deckard

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    Dude! You have the '81 and '86 last Finals game on tape?? The two Rockets losses that ended their runs? Send them to R2K, ASAP, and you'll be a local hero! Seriously.

    (and if you have other games from the '81 and '86 playoff runs, send them as well!)
     
  3. dandorotik

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    "I couldn't care less about the timeout. That's not the issue," Mavs owner Mark Cuban told ESPN.com. Like his players, Cuban likely was upset with the disparity in free throws (Miami shot 49; Dallas 25), the number of fouls called against each team (the Heat were whistled for 26, the Mavs for 38) and the nature of the final foul against Nowitzki, who placed his hand on Wade's hip when he went up for his shot.

    Oh, so the Mavs were called for 12 more fouls? And 6 of those were Hack-A-Shaq fouls? So, in essence, the Mavs were called for 6 more fouls? Yeah, what a disparity.
     
  4. dandorotik

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    Yes, in storage somewhere (I think I'm missing 1987 or 1988, though). I'll do my best to find them.
     
  5. omar23

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    The last play WAS A FOUL. It was called incorrectly on Dirk, the reach in should have been on Harris but it was a foul nonetheless. Wade was clearly raked across the arm:


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  6. Deckard

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    Cool! If you do, e-mail R2K through the board, and with any luck he can give us access to them with his wizardry.

    :cool:
     
  7. thelasik

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    omar did you get that pic from the NBA game thread on OT?
     
  8. omar23

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    The pic is on the main NBA section on ESPN.com
     
  9. JunkyardDwg

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    Or maybe the NBA should do something revolutionary and actually hold the current refs accountable for their calls... instead of safeguarding them, and censoring everybody else.
     
  10. YallMean

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    what Dirk kicked that bicycle for? What a loser. Sore and bitter.
     
  11. yaozilla1

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    ya dont pick on innocent exercise bikes
     
  12. Smokey

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    I wish the Heat owner would call Cuban out.
     
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    A year ago, Michael Finley, then a mavs, was out of bound and stole the ball from our rockets.. what did Mr. Cuban said bout that particular play???
    Now, Wade was clearly commited a back court violation and Mr. Cuban was whining like hell??? That's call KARMA!!!!!

    I like Wade but it is very obvious that the NBA would like to see the Heat to win it all. At least for David Stern's case. Stern has been waiting for nearly 10 years now since Michael Jordan retired to find a replacement. Now he finally has one in Wade, a superb guard who truly leads his team in the finals (sorry to all those kobe wankers, kobe rode on shaq's a$$ to win rings). I dont think is a conspiracy but there is no doubt NBA would like to see Heat to win. That's the reason why i think Wade is getting a super superstar treatment now.

    I agree with Nick, all nba referees need to be fired. A few of them even called the game very personal which to me is simply ridiculous!!!
     
  15. candlegreen

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    Um... From the replay, Wade has already established position at the backcourt before he got the pass, which is legalized by the NBA within the past 3 years. Wade was allowed to go to the back to retrieve a pass off a timeout and bring it to the forecourt.
     
  16. jlwee

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...slug=ap-nbafinals-mavericks&prov=ap&type=lgns

    Cuban said replays show that referees missed a backcourt violation against Dwyane Wade at the start of his final drive to the basket.

    At least that's what mark cuban think............ :D
     
  17. candlegreen

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    I wouldn't take what Mark Cuban thinks to heart. Wade caught that ball in the backcourt. At any rate, I can't help but want Dallas to lose. I hate the cockiness of these Mavs players from Dirt to Terry to Howard to Stack. This game, in its own way, has made my night.

    I just looked at the replay again, but I just don't see the backcourt. Oh well. I believe Cuban will say anything just to get the ref's attention to favor him in games 6 and 7. But hey, I could be wrong. But at this rate, it's either too close to call, or it's nothing to argue about now anyways. The foul? It was a foul, just not on Dirk, ahem... Dirt.
     
  18. hooroo

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    nowitski kicked an off the screen object. the bike he tried to pick up and slam against the wall. it was too heavy for him, and made him look like a girly man.
     
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nba&id=2490761

    Unwanted timeout sends Dallas tempers flaring

    MIAMI -- Mark Cuban has plenty more reasons to be furious with NBA officials.

    From his perspective, referees made two huge mistakes before hitting his Dallas Mavericks with an unwanted timeout during the closing moments of their 101-100 overtime loss to the Miami Heat in Game 5 of the NBA finals on Sunday night.

    Cuban said replays show that referees missed a backcourt violation against Dwyane Wade at the start of his final drive to the basket. The Dallas owner also believes Wade fouled the Mavericks' Jason Terry before drawing the contact that led to his winning free throws with 1.9 seconds left.


    For the Mavericks, those incidents overshadowed what seemed like the obvious source of their anger: Being given their final timeout between Wade's foul shots, instead of after, when they could've moved the ball to midcourt and had a chance to set up a final shot.

    "I care less about the timeout," Cuban said. "The error in my mind occurred before then."

    Asked if it was the collision that Terry jumped up from screaming about being shoved, Cuban said: "You mean when he pushed him? I don't know. I guess that's not a call. I guess that's not a foul."

    Dallas star Dirk Nowitzki, who ended up being charged with the foul on Wade's drive, said he thought "Dwyane pushed off like three guys to get to the basket."

    After Wade made another free throw following the timeout, Dallas guard Devin Harris missed a desperation heave. When the buzzer sounded, the Mavericks unleashed their anger.

    Cuban, who was wearing the jersey of suspended forward Jerry Stackhouse, ran onto the court and screamed at official Joe DeRosa, then went to the scorer's table and stared down NBA commissioner David Stern and other league officials. Cuban then went up the tunnel toward their aisle and kept screaming and staring.

    Stern made his way out, but Cuban didn't let up. Considering he's been fined well over $1 million -- including $200,000 this postseason alone -- his tab could rise again before Game 6 in Dallas on Tuesday night.

    Players were irate, too.

    Nowitzki, who scored 20 points including a tough jumper that put Dallas up by one point with 9.1 seconds left, kicked the ball into the stands as he left the court. On his way to the locker room, he slammed against a stationary bike then kicked at something else. Josh Howard, who called the timeout, threw off his headband in disgust as he left the court.

    "Josh Howard goes to Joe DeRosa and not only once, but twice asks for a timeout," referee Joe Crawford told a pool reporter. "Forced to call it, simple as that."

    When told by a reporter what Crawford said, Howard became so agitated that he had to be taken out of the locker room to calm down. Cuban came in when Howard returned.

    "It's common sense -- what would I tell him timeout for?" Howard said after gathering his emotions.


    The Mavericks went to the foul line 25 times. So did Wade. The entire Heat team went 49 times.

    "I don't know," Cuban said. "I guess they got fouled more."

    Said Harris: "It's not like we're not going to the basket."

    Mavericks coach Avery Johnson refused to answer questions about the Terry-Wade contact, repeatedly asking his interrogator what he thought. Terry said he couldn't comment.

    "We have to watch the film and see," he said.

    Asked if the refs explained the non-call to him, Cuban said: "No, they don't do that here. That's unfortunate."

    Cuban was standing against a wall, shaking his head while gathering his thoughts before speaking to reporters when assistant coach Larry Riley alerted him to the missed backcourt violation.

    "You can't be established in the frontcourt, then jump into the backcourt," Cuban said after watching a replay. "My understanding from the rule book is, if you are going to catch the ball in the backcourt, you have to be in the backcourt to catch it. You can't be established into the backcourt after you catch it or that's a backcourt violation."


    The Mavericks came into the game already furious over the decision to suspend Stackhouse because of hard foul in Game 4.

    This latest incident, and possible league action against Cuban, makes things even more interesting as the Heat take a 3-2 series lead to Dallas for Game 6 on Tuesday night.

    "This is going to leave a bitter taste in everyone's mouth," Howard said. "We're going to come out and play hard in Game 6 and Game 7."
     
  20. emoreland

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    The reason why Wade gets calls is because he DRIVES to the basket and forces the defense's hand. With the new rules.....he can basically do anything he wants because hes an incredible athlete who is incredibly quick. The only way to stop him is to force him to pass and the Mavericks simply arent doing enough. Harris is the only one that can keep up with him and Wade is just stronger. Miami should always get more free throws in this series just because the Mavs are content with shooting from the outside.

    The free throw disparity also has nothing to do with the refs and EVERYTHING to do with those 3 idiots who continously foul O'Neal. They cant hold him down there.
     

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