$21 million dollars tied into nothing PFs are really hurting right now, especially since they seem to be untradable. So from that stand point the near future does look bleak. Boy I betcha Les hates to cut those checks.
you know... surprised nobody here ever thought that maybe mo or juwan can break out and start being the dream pf we need its not like theyre permanently soft and weak they can work harder and be what we want them to be right? always room for improvement
well Howard is not getting any better only older. Mo on the other hand cant get any worse. He needs to get his shot back and atleast give us some offense off of the bench.
Odom + Mihm for Yao + Mo + Boki It gives Yao what is really best for him. I truly believe that Yao's days as a Rocket are numbered. Also, it offers Mo the opportunity to play for Rudy T again. Considering Yao and and Mo are the two central lightningrods of criticism, it might be best for the players to part ways with the Rockets. I don't think any young player can flourish under JVG especially in the skill development department. I'd like to see what Yao and Mo can do on a different team.
With a couple of more moves, I could see it as a championship team. The salary issue would be tough, though. I don't see why Les would spend any less. It's not like he started spending more when Yao got here. There is a salary-cap in the NBA, with quantifiable exceptions (MLE, lower-level exception, etc.). He may make less money from sponsors, but I really don't care about Les' pocketbook. Also, I'm not saying we should trade Yao and would put that likelihood at 0.00001%, I am saying see what type of offers are out there.
Dude, fyi, this is a Rockets site, not a Yao site. That deal would be one of the dumbest in NBA history, regardless of what you think it would do for Yao's game.
What does a devotion to one player have to do with being a fan of a team?? Unless you're talking about a MJ, Hakeem, Shaq, Magic, Larry Bird, Tim Duncan type player....you know, champions, why should I, as a Rockets fan, be against trading Yao if it made us better...championship caliber better?? Makes no sense.
Rockets management at least gave Francis 5 years to turn this franchise into a contender, why not give the same to the duo of Yao and McGrady? They just have to start plugging in players that aren't lesser than garbage. Rockets management at least gave Francis 5 years to turn this franchise into a contender, why not give the same to the duo of Yao and McGrady? They just have to start plugging in players that aren't lesser than garbage. Rockets management at least gave Francis 5 years to turn this franchise into a contender, why not give the same to the duo of Yao and McGrady? They just have to start plugging in players that aren't lesser than garbage. Rockets management at least gave Francis 5 years to turn this franchise into a contender, why not give the same to the duo of Yao and McGrady? They just have to start plugging in players that aren't lesser than garbage. Post of the year, hands down. In this instant gratification, we-better-win-it-all-this-year-or-else society, this is the type of thinking we need to win a championship. They deserve at least 3-4 years. McGrady is not the problem. Yao is not the problem. Every player is going to have faults in their game, but hey- give me a center who averages 18 points, 8 rebounds, 50% field goal percentage, 75-80% free throws, a few blocks- hey, I'll take that. Give me a 2 that averages 23+, 6 assists, a few steals, and is a bonafide game breaker- I'll take that. The problem is players 3-12. That's the problem. Maybe with the exception of Jackson, these guys suck at defense and offense. They need at least players who are going to be SOMEWHAT of a threat. It's not too much to ask for 10 points a game from the point guard position, 12 and 8 from the power forward, and 12 and 6 from the small forward position, is it? I'll repeat this again: Rockets management at least gave Francis 5 years to turn this franchise into a contender, why not give the same to the duo of Yao and McGrady? They just have to start plugging in players that aren't lesser than garbage.
"What does a devotion to one player have to do with being a fan of a team?? Unless you're talking about a MJ, Hakeem, Shaq, Magic, Larry Bird, Tim Duncan type player....you know, champions, why should I, as a Rockets fan, be against trading Yao if it made us better...championship caliber better?? Makes no sense." yao is only 25, yao did good for us last year and his rookie year, now one year he does bad, 'trade him' and i like hitman's post
We have only lost 2 games to bad teams, 3 if you count Toronto. The Hawks loss we didn't score a point for like 8 mins in the 4th quarter, in the NY loss, Crawford banked in a desperation 3 to beat us. We have also beaten the Kings and the Spurs, which kind of balances out losses to the Hawks and Knicks. We also lost some winnable games when McGrady was out with the injury, like the TWolves game where Jackson was called for a moving pick at the end of the game, or the Lakers game. This team is right about where it should be, and the future does indeed look brighter. We have already played 8 games we expected to lose (2-6): San Antonio Detroit x2 Dallas x2 Sacramento x2 Minnesota We have played 7 games against teams we expected to beat (4-3): New York Philadelphia New Jersey New Orleans LA Clippers (who are over .500, yet still the Clippers) Toronto Atlanta The other games were against teams at about our level of expectation going into the season (3-3): Utah Memphis x2 Portland LA Lakers Denver To my way of thinking, that puts us at 1 game worse than we should be at this point (assuming a .500 record in the tossup category). That means there is no reason to panic.
Who cares how many years they gave Francis, or Caldwell Jones, or anybody? If there's a trade that can make them better and take them out of what looks to be perilously close to 2-3 years of mediocrity, i'm for it. They can trade the whole damned team if that's the case.
It would be more conceivable to ask for Arroyo instead of Lopez or Giricek, which inturn, would be better for the Rockets. Kirilenko and Boozer together in a deal is interesting to say the least, but off hand, I don't know if that would work financially. It would depend on how much Yao would recieve in a sign and trade.
The fleeting wins vs. Sac & SA only balance out our bad losses if you expect to lose every single game vs. good teams. If that is what you expect to do, then you don't expect to go to the playoffs. We're 4-3 against teams we should be cleaning up against (and in the past, have cleane up against); we're getting spanked by good teams, and we're breaking even against average teams. That is not a path to the playoffs in the Western Conference of the NBA, which we will not make barring something dramatic, as clutch notes http://bbs2.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88184 That is regression. Oh yeah, and all of our players suck except for two, that played a major role in my analysis as well, btw.
It will not be the first time a high profile player like Yao has been traded by an organization!! Sometimes I guess you have to make a move like that when your in a deep hole like this team is. its definitely a tough call. i dont necessarily support it butit depends what we would get back Help me OB Wan your my only hope. Help me OB Wan your my only hope.
I think there will be a great deal that hinges on the next CBA. I think the more we fall, the greater the likelihood we will use our trade exception chip to build talent for the next couple years. There's no way we'll sit on this team floundering like it is.
Shaq was traded for Odom, Butler, Grant, and a 1st rounder If the Rockets trade Yao and Mo for Odom and Mihm + a 1st rounder, it would be somewhat fair. I think the Rockets are in some deep **** now. I've already said that this team is geared to be an uptempo team since the shooters are lacking. You plug in Odom and Mihm, and it will definitely be more uptempo.
Let's be realistic here. The odds of Yao signing a long-term deal in Utah is like nil. The Odom deal is the most probable.
