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2006/2007 Cap Flexibility

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tshay, Feb 24, 2005.

  1. ggore

    ggore Member

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    According to HoppsHype, Murphy's contract is 2.2 mil and expires this year.
     
  2. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    he signed a 6 year extension. i'm not sure for how much.
     
  3. pugsly8422

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    For all of those people saying getting Pierce is too much, I'd have to say I agree with you, but there is a big thing I believe is being left out. Now I'm no NIKE, but to me it seems that as long as we have Yao and TMac signed to max contracts we are going to be repeating a process over and over. Lets assume we trade Spoon/Baker/Wesley (or was it Moochie?) for Pierce, assuming also the contracts match. Well you've just traded Wesley for Pierce. Instead of Spoon and Baker sitting the bench their money is being paid to Pierce. Whenever Pierce's contract is ready to expire we're probably going to be repeating this process over again, until we have only 1 max player. If your thinking we won't have enough players since Pierce will be taking the place of 3 guys just ask yourself how much Spoon and Baker played, at least we're getting production for that money.

    Bottom line...we need to get used to trading expiring contracts for players with a few years left because that's the best thing we can do for ourselves in the situation we're in.

    Pugs
     
  4. NIKEstrad

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    58 million. He's currently a poison pill contract (in brief, he counts as his current ~2 mill to the Warriors, but if they were to trade him, he'd hit at 12 mill), and then will be a BYC player, being difficult to trade.
     
  5. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Just for argument's sake, will be still be a BYC by the February 2006 trade deadline? That's the latest we can move our Expiring contracts.

    So he got 6 years at 58M? 10M a year. That's a ton, but probably inline marketwise for a young productive PF. At SIX years at that price, we would have to be DAMN sure he would be a good fit, otherwise that would be a SERIOUS albatross contract and a mistake we CANT afford to make during this prime run with Yao and Tmac.
     
  6. NIKEstrad

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    Yes.

    Though, a minor caveat imo- BYC is something new to the current CBA. I suppose there's a possibility of it being eliminated, but I don't think so.
     
  7. gucci888

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    Mullin basically screwed himself when he gave the ridiculous extensions to Murphy and Foyle.

    Murphy is having a great year 16 & 11 and I think he would be a good fit with Yao. He is a good shooter and can rebound well, but like you said, his contract is a mistake we might not be able gamble on.
     
  8. joolut

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    Don't forget his "brilliant" acquisition of Fisher at like 36 million. That guy would have been fired by now if BDavis didn't fall into his lap.
     
  9. sirjesse

    sirjesse The Udoker has spoken!
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    you guys gave me a headache reading this thread all in one sitting! :p
     
  10. yellaman

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    1) 04-05: our team sal is at 57 mil.

    2) 05-06: Deke, James and Barry's contracts expire. With other sal increase, our team sal will be at $50 mil. Assume we can resign these 3 with same contracts or maybe a bit more, it will bring us to $59-60 mil.

    3) 06-07: Spoon, Wesley, Mooch, Baker's contract expire. Our team salary will be around $36 mil including the 7 mil qualifying offer to Yao. Why can't we compete for FA that year? I understand you have to sign your own player first to determine your cap before you bid for FAs but would a qualifying offer good enough for that purpose?

    Im no cap genius but after 06-07 is when the rockets should be able to sign bigtime free agents. Assuming their around 36 mil, and assuming the cap is 60 mill, thats 24 million to play with on free agents because with yao being rockets property the bird rights come into affect. So lets say the rockets use that extra 24 million on other players and their at 60 million, they can still sign yao to a max using the bird rights.....so all in all, yes theyll have money to play with if they dont mind paying the luxury tax.
     
  11. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Exactly. So that's why the "cap geniuses" (NIKE, Aelliott) have spoken. Re-read their posts.
     
  12. DeAleck

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    You are asking questions that have already been clearly explained by NIKE. Just read them. BTW, James has a couple more years left on his contract after this year. Hoopshype is wrong on that.
     
  13. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Yes. James signed a 3yr 10M contract. So he is on the books for 2 more years after this one at slightly over 3M per. And I believe since he signed a 3 year deal, we will have his bird rights when he hits free agency.
     
  14. NIKEstrad

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    Bender reports year 3 as a player option. He's definitely under contract for next season, and unless he continues his MJ impression for the next 1.5 years. I certainly could see him sticking around Houston for awhile.
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    I am certifiably impressed by the ability of some to type without being able to read.

    I'm not rehashing what I've already rehashed about 862 times in this thread again.
     
  15. DrNuegebauer

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    On the first page of the thread:


    And then on the third page of the thread:



    So basically, the exact points that you made had been made earlier, and dealt with in the thread....
     
  16. m_cable

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    Whoa, that's kind of freaky. The exact same wording was used, so it's probably a copy and paste job. But I doubt that yellaman copied it from the beginning of the thread, because he probably would have read some of the explanations that followed.

    Assuming that ragingFire and yellaman aren't split personailites of the same person, I'm guessing that the first post was regurgitated and posted on another board, and then was reposted on this board by a person who wasn't aware of the origins of the piece.

    It's funny how stuff on the net can go full circle by people trying to share information to and from different sources. Or maybe there's a simpler explanation to the whole thing.
     
  17. DrNuegebauer

    DrNuegebauer Member

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    Maybe... or maybe they both got abducted by aliens and told to post the same thing on the bbs...


    Surely if yella copied and pasted from the beginning of the thread then he would HAVE to see the explanations given.... so must be from another bbs and then brought back....
     
  18. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Some people see a large thread and refuse to read it. Then post their comments to the original post and never read the explainations throughout the thread that might in fact answer their original question. Sad.


    NIKE should just have a file on hand so he can whip out the same explaination every time one of these threads pops up.

    You can bet this issue will be discussed a ton from until now until the trading deadline next year.
     
  19. JayZ750

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    I think it's fair to mention in all of the is this possible/isn't this possible arguments, which NIKE has clearly articulated in this thread and hundres of others over the past few years...

    ...the Rockets went in the right direction for the first time in a long time at the deadline. Which is why so many people were amazed.
     

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