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2004: OMG! Bush has turned the whole world against us! 2012: Who cares about them.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Hightop, Jun 13, 2012.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    That's because you guys have a mentality problem (on average): You like to find scapegoats for your own failure (Israel, USA, "non-believers"). You think more highly of yourselves than what your work and achievements warrant.

    So you are blaming rapes within the Arab world on the US government. That's rich, even for you.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    The fact that you're acting too lazy/myopic/stubborn/uninterested/whatever to understand the difference isn't really my concern and doesn't really have too much effect on reality.
     
  3. RedRedemption

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    What's the point? Knowing the other side will do the same and with more frequency.
     
  4. da_juice

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    This. We're either voting for the causal interventionist or the neo-conservative. I'm unhappy with both- but Obama's the lesser of two evils.
     
  5. rhadamanthus

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    Obama's most honest critics have been progressives. Period.
     
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  6. Hightop

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    The lesser of two evils is still evil.
     
  7. RedRedemption

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    Its either Romney or Obama.
     
  8. QdoubleA

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    Do you believe that President Obama is an evil man. Yes or no please.
     
  9. Rocketman95

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    Have you not read Hightop's own personal blog? It's right here.
     
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  10. Hightop

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    Jon Stewart Loses It Over Senate's Misguided Drone Criticism

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  11. Hightop

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    Just as evil as Bush.
     
  12. RocketMan Tex

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    But not nearly as stupid....:grin:
     
  13. thadeus

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    Yeah, I like it when some Ron Paul teabagger posts stuff like this and thinks it's somehow shocking. Most people I'd identify as 'liberals' have been highly critical of Obama (with the exception of a few).

    The problem is, and has always been, that the alternative is far worse. Another round of conservative "pro-business" (euphemism for pro-plutocracy) economic ideas, and we're all ****ed.
     
  14. SacTown

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    I thought Obama was going to side with the muslims an terrorists should the political winds change or something like that? Why is he taking them out with drones?
     
  15. Hightop

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    You summed this all up. This is about hating Bush because he has a "cowboy" image. He is the wrong type of person who might go to church, like NASCAR, and shoot a gun.

    Liberals hated that way more than any war or civilian drone strike casualty policy.
     
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    I've quoted a previous post of mine on this topic too many times already, but, suffice it to say that it's natural for "progressives" to be upset, as Obama has readily strengthened ideologically conservative programs that he campaigned to either end or stunt. More to the point, it's only a few outlying right-wing folks who have ventured to rally to the progressive cause, as they risk making utter fools of themselves - their own alternative is a millionaire political droid who cannot take a stance on anything without first gauging his audience and weighing it against his predisposition to placate corporate power. The old "lesser of two evils shtick" rings true. Furthermore, this all rings hollow, as they supported those programs; Obama is conforming to their attitudes.

    I guess, for some conservative types, there is pleasure to be had in mocking the progressives that thought Obama might be different or an improvement. To that, I would counter that he certainly has been, just not in the ways we wanted, and not significantly enough to silence my disgust. It's not all his fault of course...

    Still, it's interesting to note that Fox and the other big-player neocon outlets are not running with this attack too (or, at least, not overtly). I think it says a lot about the weakness of the Bush-era policies (PATRIOT Act, wiretapping, Guantanamo, and of course our ever-expanding farcical "war on terror" etc) that those who rallied around the administration at that time both a) will not praise Obama for continuing them and b) won't defend those policies directly against progressive anger. It underscores our lack of choice in candidates and re-affirms that these programs stand on shaky legal and ethical ground. The political center has shifted to the right in the US...again. Best not to talk about it or draw attention to it. Just roll along smugly.
     
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  17. Hightop

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    The governmental created the mess. You will never get your beloveld governemt health care. Deal with it, wuss.

    Profits, not war.
     
  18. Rocketman95

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    Someone's getting frustrated. The weird grammar and spelling mistakes are a sure sign.
     
  19. Kojirou

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    An answer which really doesn't say anything. Is Obama an evil man? What about Bush?
     
  20. da_juice

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    His posts are slowly getting worse and worse. I sense an outburst coming like last time.
     

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