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2 year old ran over, ignored by 18 bystanders

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Child_Plz, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. ChievousFTFace

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  2. foxhuyi

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    I told you it's glory of China.We shall be have honor of it,no one could be like us,it's weird for me to hear you American's fake care.It's excting to be watching the raping affairs,and violent in WWE,we're excting to watch the good performance by two van drivers.We'll have fun and enjoy it as it was happened in WWE ana p*rn .RIGHT? sorrry.for my chi-english......
     
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  3. Kyakko

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    :p I don't think you mean to say what you said or at least I hope not.
     
  4. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    Poster sounds like a fake and troll. Better to just ignore.
     
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    agree, 100%. repped.
     
  6. ChievousFTFace

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    The glory of a dead 2 year old and 18 pieces of human fecal matter... keep that crap over there and shove it where the sun don't shine dickface. If you end up under a bus, I hope your momma is on vacation shooting a video called "Come Bang Foxhuyi's Mom For the Glory of China" so somebody can scrap up your remains and add it to the soylent green they are serving over there.

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  7. Two Sandwiches

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    It was a girl.


    Do over!






    (Sorry for the insensitive post, but somebody had to say it.)
     
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  9. crossover

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    So I think I've mentioned before on the board, I am an American working as the sole foreigner in a local IT entrepreneurship in China. The distribution of income in China isn't as you'd expect and the majority of my coworkers who make less than 3k-6k RMB (less than 500-900 USD a month) and are mostly immigrants from other Chinese cities are easily considered middle to upper class. Exposure to this socioeconomic condition, you get a lot of perspectives on all sides of things as opposed to foreigners working in large multinationals.

    From my perspective, 1. Nero's claim is only a half-truth. Basic Chinese principles of Confucianism and Buddhism and societal values have enough bountiful concepts of right and wrong and do-onto-others-as-they-would-do-onto-you. In fact, that Golden Rule still exists now, and it is because no one would stop by to help that child as an individual decision, that no one expects anyone to stop either. Most accounts of China generations before commie reign paint a much brighter picture. Rather, this kind of moral decision making is a recent modern age phenomena based on China's particular situation.

    2. The Bystander Effect has nothing to do with this scenario. If only one person passed by, they still wouldn't make a decision to help the child.

    ... I want to write more about what's going on here and will do so tomorrow, but it's late and I have deadline that needs to be done by morning! I will say that in a nutshell, Don Fakefan's post is probably most spot on - it's a moral system to fit the current particular and dominant free market system and socioeconomic status of the majority in China. (if anything, blame some principles of capitalism... seriously.) Will post later.
     
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    There is no excuse not none for running over a freaking 2 yr old in plain view in the street... I don't give a damn what origin/religion/ or country you from, this **** is sickening to the bone!!!
     
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    Are you stupid or something?
     
  12. ChievousFTFace

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    Do you find it moronic to call a woman that wanted to help a dying 2 year old someone that wanted to stand out? Perhaps sarcasm is lost in translation or he's a troll...
     
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    I respect your thoughts and words Crossover, and I am sure you have a much better perspective on the issue than I do.

    Believe me I was speaking in the largest possible of generalities, and of course when doing so there will always be a million holes and a million exceptions.

    My point really was speaking to what it is that becomes so ingrained within us that makes us as human beings perceive the same events so differently. You could fill entire libraries with philosophical, religious, political and social books endlessly debating that very thing. While religion is certainly a factor, it is by no means the only one.

    To me, what it has largely boiled down to over the years is the ideological conflict between acceptance of collectivism/statism versus taking the view that freedom is a core basic right of every human being.

    The hope is that people (and governments) will ALWAYS place a high value on individual lives, but as many people have cited, there seems to be a growing trend in the opposite direction.

    The question then becomes: Why?
     
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    We should be wary when rampant nationalism is valued greater than the lives of individuals:

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    ******* sick. She could have been ok if he didn't run her over for the second time. I would pay to beat up this dude.

    Is she pronounced dead?
     
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    No sympathy is given to the car drivers. The news and video has greatly shocked the Chinese community as well.

    If you can read Chinese, you should not have ignored all the comments below the article you posted.
     
  17. KingLeoric

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    No. It's just you.
     
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    I can kind of see this, and lord knows I've railed on capitalism repeatedly here and elsewhere, but it still troubles me. It troubles me because the insinuation is that one's level of compassion and empathy is somehow connected to socioeconomic status or a particular political or economic ideology.

    Fundamentally, I don't think I agree with that. Certainly some aspects of capitalism and some aspects of collectivism embolden selfishness or callousness - but I don't think they can be a direct cause. A person still has to make the choice themselves to resist feelings of pity and purposefully ignore a person suffering needlessly.

    Unfortunately, that only makes this situation worse, since it would lead one to conclude that the folks who walked by and let this poor little child suffer and die just simply did not care, judging their own petty and selfish routines as more important. That would be truly disturbing. Which brings me back to my first post...I hate people.
     
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    I don't know. I've seen this happen too many times in too many places to believe it is purely an effect of ideology.

    What I think is happening is at a more innate level. Not that we're evil or good, but rather we are unfamiliar with the situation. Put it this way, professionals train a certain way to respond to a certain situation... i.e. fighters to an attack, firemen to a burning fire. In a sense, everyone is trained to behave "normally". When something of of the scope happens, we don't subconsciously register it and we continue to do what we're "trained" to do. So, in that sense, we are complacent. We become "sheep".

    I seriously don't think those people passing by are malicious. It is just that events like that doesn't register to them because it's out of their normal scope of daily events. If one person were to stop them and say... "Hey! what are you doing? Can't you see someone got ran over." They would stop to help... as in the case where people were lifting the car.
     
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