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Not rooting for either team. We should have won to control our own destiny, we didn't, so no excuses on the Longhorns end. We get what we deserve from here on out. I'll be rooting for a good, exciting game from the Big 12 South again. Looks like an awesome match up, and the TECH crowd is gonna be rowdy as hell again. Looking forward to the game, without a doubt. These two teams are hella fun to watch.
You guys still have a chance for a 3 way tie if we win and OU beats Tech later/ or we beat Tech and Tech beats OU, and we beat OU in both.
Dude, you should feel exonerated. Had we lost, this game wouldn't have meant as much to y'all and your rankings. I believe Tech will win this game, but many are saying that we spent our wad on UT. We'll see Saturday. I've no animosity towards the Cowboys. I feel they've been like us since the Big XII started. Now that the respect is done. We'll wipe our asses with you.
Texas fans need to root for OSU. If Tech wins, that makes Texas' road to a B12 title very difficult. If OSU wins, it opens a lot of things up. In 3 way ties, OU has the best position, then Texas, then OSU or Tech (not sure which) - partly due to schedule, partly due to reputation (thus higher positioning in polls). Oddly enough, probably unfairly for OSU, but I don't see a real clear path to the B12 title for them despite having only barely lost @ Texas (barring another loss by Texas). Even if they beat both Tech and OU, that forces either a 3-way tie between Tech/OSU/UT (which UT probably wins) or a 2-way tie with UT, which UT wins.
No kidding. I'd say I wonder how the SEC feels in times like this, but all our good teams are in the South this year. It's going to be odd if Tech doesn't win out.
Texas needs OSU and OU to win and then they'll win the south. Obviously they'd need to win out as well.
From what I'm understanding, I think it goes something like this in order for UT to possibly make it to the BCS. Here are the remaining schedules for UT, OSU, OU and TTU: UT: Baylor, at Kansas, Texas A&M OSU: at TTU, at Colorado, OU OU: at Texas A&M, TTU, at OSU TTU: OSU, at OU, Baylor Texas's best chances would be to win out, win the Big XII South, and then win the Big XII championship to help their BCS ranking going into the national championship. The first of these is in UT's control but for the others they would need help from outside. The easiest path happens if TTU loses 2 games (OSU and OU the likely candidates) which would crown UT the Big XII south champs (assuming, of course, the 'horns get past Baylor, Kansas and TAMU) since they would have the head-to-head victory over any other team (either OU or OSU) with which they are tied. If TTU loses only one game, the best scenario would be for that loss to happen this weekend at the hands of OSU and for OSU to defeat OU in the final game. This sets up a three way tie between UT, OSU and TTU. The tie-breaker in this case would be the BCS ranking after all games are played in the regular season which, most likely, would have UT ranked higher than OSU and TTU and get them into the Big XII championship game. A three way tie between TTU, UT and OU happens if TTU defeats OSU this weekend but loses to OU the week after. The Sooners would have to defeat the Cowboys in the final game of the season, as well. In the tie-break scenario OU may get the higher BCS rank since they would have finished their season with wins over #9 OSU and #2 TTU, likely catapulting them into the conference championship.
Please, if you are a longhorn fan you should be cheering your hearts out for OK state. We need them to win desperately. Go Cowboys!
With Penn State having such a crappy schedule and the SEC heading towards a 'Bama v. Florida showdown, I think Tech has the best chance of anyone to represent the Big 12 in the championship. Wreck Em Tech!
I like Texas Tech being in the driver's seat. While all the other teams have to worry about scenarios, if Tech wins out they are in the BCS title game. It will be a hell of a challenge though. Wreck 'em!
If OSU goes undefeated from here, they would have beaten the #2 and the #6, but you don't think they'd jump ahead of Texas, but OU would with #2 and #9? (I don't think it matters, I don't expect to see OSU winning vs. Tech and OU) The easiest path for Texas would be an OSU victory vs. Tech, in conjunction with OU beating Tech and OSU. (OU and Texas are tied, but Texas wins the head to head matchup and Tech/OSU both have 2 losses)
Well, I figured if OSU goes undefeated to wind up tied with Texas and Texas Tech at season's end, we also have to assume that Tech will beat OU in their game after they'd have lost to OSU. This would make OU's stock in the BCS drop a bit so by the time the Cowboys were to beat the Sooners in the last game, it may come off a Sooners team with 2 losses on the year and, depending on the other teams around them, might have OU drop out of the top ten in the BCS. For this reason I would think that an OSU, Texas and Texas Tech three way tie would be better than if the three-way tie happend with Texas, Texas Tech and OU. If this three-way tie were to happen (OU, Texas and Tech), OU would be finishing with victories over #2 Tech after Tech had beaten OSU making OU's victory over the Red Raiders more impressive in the computer rankings. Granted that when the Sooners play the Cowboys, OSU's BCS rank may not be as high as it is now since they'd be a 2 loss team at the time, but due to the current rankings of OU and OSU, I think OU has the greater potential to leapfrog Texas in the BCS rankings should it come down to that. I agree that Texas Tech wth 2 losses makes the best scenario due to the head-to-head win of UT over either OSU or OU, whichever winds up tied with the 'horns in the end.
Assuming UT wins out, as long as Tech loses once, UT should win the Big 12 South since the BCS rankings should have us ranked higher than OU, OSU, or Tech at the end of the season. I think Oklahoma State wins this game because of their running game. I imagine they saw how Texas completely screwed up the end by not draining more clock. They will learn from that and control time of possession. I'll take the MAN over the Pirate for this one.
Good points, El Torro, I hadn't really thought about the fact that OU would have had to just lose the week before.
Nah, it's all so convoluted I still don't understand half of what's going on. One big assumption we're all making is just how far Texas Tech's ranking will drop should they finish the season with one loss. Would you rank them ahead of Texas if both teams have one loss? Would the team that gave Texas Tech the loss (either OU or OSU) be ranked ahead of Tech? If so, would UT be ranked ahead of that team (either OU or OSU) since the Longhorns have already beaten them? But then if you do that, would it make sense to have Tech ranked below UT, even though they've beaten them? It's still such a mess
