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2 games out of the Play-in Tournament

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Dec 13, 2021.

  1. daywalker02

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    We are winning right now, aren't we but to say we have to make the Play Ins.

    It is just a stretch, enjoy while we can, while we are mostly injury free.
     
  2. daywalker02

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    Yes, but middle of the pack teams do middle of the pack things, that is search for possibilities either way.

    Try to make deals.

    No need to fixate on one option. Flexibility is the name of the Game.
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    I know you would….

    So then you don’t understand the argument….

    I’m implying that high draft picks are more valuable than lower before they are actually drafted. Furthermore, we could package Green and the player we draft (Chet as an example) for a superstar.

    I’m saying rebuilding gives us more ways to get better than your competition way.

    But we still had to have Harden…. Who is the current Harden that will attract FA agents like Howard or players we can trade for…. Like aging point guards?

    We traded for CP3 and WB and are still paying for those huge swings.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    Trading for star players is also a player wanting to come here as star players have the option to go where they want to go. So CP3 and Westbrook wanting to come here are also star players that wanted to play with Harden.

    That doesn't change the argument, in fact it highlights the truth that most championship teams are built around one and sometimes two top 5 players. Why isn't that Sengun and Green? Is Green not good enough then? I know Sengun is...sounds like maybe we should have drafted someone else with that #2 pick...

    My point is this. The only strategy for this team shouldn't be tanking. We should not be thinking this year is tank or bust. If you feel it is then lets' roll out those Theis lineups and tank. Screw everything else. Let's just go another 20 game losing streak and acquire this other star player.
     
  5. harold bingo

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    5 games over 500 is a lot of games when you're this early in the season. 5 games over 500 is like a 50 win pace right now.
     
  6. dmoneybangbang

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    But you are arguing what the “best organizations do” in regards to successfully competing.

    Can we replicate that with what we have?
     
  7. JayGoogle

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    You're missing one thing here. Tanking eliminates the other options. Stars are not coming to a tanking team. Also, if you're doing it too often...it likely means your organization sucks.
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    Why is it Green and Sengun after less than half a season? That’s crazy and just homerism.

    The best strategy for a team that just lost its franchise player is to be exploring all means of improving.
     
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  9. dmoneybangbang

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    Clearly trading for a star would mean we are no longer tanking.
     
  10. daywalker02

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    You can have the last word on this, companero.

    Worry about Jalen Green, KPJ first, stars coming thru the doors, it is a long way ahead.

    Am I missing something or are the Rockets missing a superstar?

    I got no problem, just going with the flow.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. hakeem94

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    BUT WE HAVE SENGUN AND YOU DONT EVEN PLAY HIM!
    cut the bs excuses
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    You said that winning is COMPLETELY on luck or something similar to that.

    My reply to that is no, no it isn't. There's a reason the Heat who were once an irrelevant expansion franchise turned out to be one of the best run organizations in the NBA. Pat Riley entered the building.

    There's a reason why Jerry West is considered one of the best GMs of all time. It's not luck.
     
  13. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    Your argument is literally self-defeating. You say we should tank to “explore all options,” but by tanking, you’re eliminating other ways of improving, i.e. creating a winning culture that attracts FAs and trade prospects.
     
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    why are you so special you think your opinion is correct?
    also remmeber TANKING IS CHEATING
    you may as well go out and bribe the refs...
    also be careful adam silver boot stepping on your throat in the middle of the process so you still go nowhere and you lose the both worlds that of competing and of tanking like 76ers
     
  15. harold bingo

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    The bittersweet part of these wins is that they're mostly coming off the talents of Eric Gordon, and last night DJ Augustin. I have no problem with winning if our young guys are carrying us, but having these guys in their 30s carry us to wins isn't really doing us any good. If we can make the play in with Sengun, Green, KPJ, KJ, and/or Josh Christopher playing big minutes then I'll be thrilled. The playin game would be exciting, as would any playoff experience.

    But I'm not interested in seeing Gordon, DJ, House, Nwaba, etc carrying the team and getting all these minutes. No interest in watching anyone over 27 minutes play 35 minutes in a playin game or playoff series.
     
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  16. JayGoogle

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    Because as I mentioned most championship teams are built on one or two top 5 guys, that's it.

    Sengun should have went higher, we all know that, thankfully he didn't.

    Not 3 or 4.

    If Green or Sengun is not good enough then why should I believe that Banchero will be? The guy that has Carlos Boozer comps is going to save our franchise?
     
  17. dmoneybangbang

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    Luck plays a strong role in sports. Pat Riley and Jerry West still needed some luck to bounce their way.

    Heat still needed to do their draft work while also getting the luck to be in the draft position to draft their guys or have other teams pass on their guys.
     
  18. hakeem94

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    and we never won with harden didnt we, neither okc neither nets did...what does it say about the franchise players? lololololo
     
  19. dmoneybangbang

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    Why would you assume that whoever we draft will remain a Rocket forever and not be traded to upgrade?

    For whatever reason you assume rebuilding means drafting a guy who is superstar when it could also be using high draft picks to get a superstar.
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    But I completely agree with this.

    My thing is, to the pro-tanking crowd...should we just pull the plug and play those Theis lineups then?

    The way I see it, either we get better or worse when KPJ-Green come back or we don't. No reason to force anything.
     

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