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2 games out of the Play-in Tournament

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Dec 13, 2021.

  1. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

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    why you need more talent? we already have 2 superstars jalen green and alperen sengun...and even these 2 cant get enough PT.... win games and give them po experience perhaps they win it all

    if you disagree then 25 teams in nba should tank to get top 3 pick because they aint winning
    and you aint winning with top 3 pick its an outdated concept....get your facts straight

    besides tanking is literally CHEATING.... you may as well go and bribe the refs if you like them plastic t***
     
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  2. hakeem94

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    lol i bet you any money they play with cheat codes because its to hard too win playing regular way...lololololololol
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  3. hakeem94

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    lol why you so convinced rockets are bad?!.... we on 10 games winning streak the only thing holding us back is silas with thesis experiment... we are one of the best teams in nba roster and play wise
     
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    the only insane thing was inserting thesis back in the line up and not playing sengun down the stretch in bucks game...
    10 games w streak baby if silas is just not plain dumb....we dont need no offensive geniuses with the talent and dogs we have
     
  5. Sengun

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    You play to win games and if you win, you win. If you lose, you lose. If you win, you go to the play-offs, you become the champion, if you lose, you choose from the lottery. It's that simple. A bloody hell basketball team can not lost games due to have lottery pick. If you lost a game, you'll pick from lottery. This is result. Not goal.

    I don't want this team whose average age is 22 to lose games on purpose and to have a "loser" mentality. This team should win every game and winning should become a culture. You can never have a champion spirit by constantly losing matches.

    Although I want this team to lose when I'm mad at Silas, I want this team to reach the play-in group this year in the worst case scenario. It will be a great experience for rookies and will make them look to the future with more confidence.
     
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    Sil@ss though…………………………………….
     
  7. DeBeards

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    no more tanking?!
    seriously?!!!!!!
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  8. daywalker02

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    That is right, why not cash in on it now?
     
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  9. daywalker02

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    It is not winning per se, I think people fall easily for the fool's errand.

    One cannot argue that one sided, because as people point out, there are several ways to be a contender again, draft is only option but it is a good option.

    They think too highly of role players like Augustin and Gordon for example who want their last big contract.

    We made a run and all of a sudden the losing streak did not happen.

    It is quite alright, we want the same thing, development.

    And yes, the Play In is not as prestigious as some people make it out to be!
    (They just campaigning for a phony ad)
     
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  10. ChillyPete32

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    Green’s return should help with this conundrum. If as the Green Gang suggests, the only thing holding him back was philosophy and he plays really well, then we’re good to keep winning these games and chase the play in spot.

    If he comes back and again performs like one of the worst players in the league then we really need a shot at another top 5 pick.

    This will kind of solve itself because even if he only plays 15-20 minutes a game, if he’s as bad as he was preinjury we aren’t going to keep winning at this pace and then we’ll sell before the deadline and the losses will pile up.
     
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    I do not think it is that simple.

    If Jalen Green's minutes hinders EGo, Mathews and others' performance, the ball stops in his hand, then I can see us having a problem.

    But if he is moving the ball well, and stays within the system, the winning can continue.

    Personally I think the team is going to stay at 30%-40% record. All depends on Gordon and DJ now.

    It will force management to act.
     
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  12. theDude

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    I do not want the play-in at all. I want the highest pick possible. But I want it naturally. I don’t want it by limiting Sengun’s minutes. I don’t want it by starting Green every night with no real plan. I want to see different lineups and trying to put each individual in the best spot for them and the team. I want to see real development.
     
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    Marathon vs sprint. I want to win a championship in my lifetime, not watch 5 more games this year or whatever. Being competitive this year is great and welcome but an arbitrary goal of making the playoffs is pointless.

    This offseason Wall becomes one year closer to being off of his albatross contract, and we can move House and some other dead weight. Pick another top guy or two, address our minutes logjam and then look to cash in chips. More assets, more flexibility. This is still a transitory roster.

    We've tanked for one year so far. We are not the Knicks yet, in spite of Tilmans best efforts.
     
  16. daywalker02

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    Thank the Lord, most people have kept their cool.
     
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    Guys I already called it, We will make the finals this year and play the Bucks only to get swept. Let me dream for godsakes! :po_O;)
     
  18. JayGoogle

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    I don't think Sengun needs an elite front court player to be good, in fact, plays just well by himself.

    Besides, who thinks Banchero or Chet will be that? Have you seen their comps? People get confused and hype guys that are just outplaying dudes that won't ever hope to make the NBA. Nothing guarantees that any of these guys will be elite. If you want an elite frontcourt player you can just trade for one. If Karl Anthony Towns or Sabonis hit the trading block (which could happen soon) and wanted to come to the Rockets we easily have more than enough to trade for him and still keep most of our young core.

    Like, we can get elite talent without tanking.

    Morey hard hunting for a third star is also his biggest issue, it means he turns down good deals trying to get the perfect deal. He's swinging for HRs when sometimes the bases are loaded and all the team needs is a good hit.

    Also, you always do this to me. I never said a few things here. I never said Sengun was enough. I never said Augustin and Gordon are the future, I never said Green was a disappointment (I think Green is going to be a great player).

    I'm saying if your strategy is "Let's just lose and draft star players!" I think it's not the best strategy. It's also COMPLETELY reliant on luck.
     
  19. daywalker02

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    Listen, I do not have a problem with where you are coming from.

    1. Yes, we could get a Sabonis but Houston is not the No. 1 trade or FA market right now.

    2. I wouldn't put it like that, I get that you want to win, just form your opinion piece as if you want to win 35 games, the Play In idea is moot.

    3. I do not do this to you. I said Green was a disappointment, I said Augustin and Gordon are not the future.
    Sengun is surely not enough!

    It's On Me!

    You just think I want to frame you because you are agitated inside but it ain't so.
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    You're saying this but remember Draymond wasn't even close to being tanked for. Klay was like the 11th pick dude, you don't tank for the 11th pick in the draft.

    Also, Clutch approving or disapproving doesn't matter to me lol, with all respect, I can disagree with Clutch.

    Tanking relies super HEAVILY on luck in this era of NBA ball. This is a fact. Not only do you need to be drafting in the right year...you also need the lottery to go your way and then you also need to actually draft a guy that will make it pay off.

    No one talks about the busts or the guys that were just solid starters or the guys that were good for a few years on for their team and then bolt for another team.

    There are other ways to getting talent, not all of your talent just comes from the top 5 of a draft.

    So when I hear people say they just want to tank I hear "I just want to get lucky."
     

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