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2 Dead as Protests Break out in Tibet

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Mar 14, 2008.

  1. RocketsDream

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    Wow, that's about the only thing that every poster in this thread will agree on.

    GO ROCKETS!!!!! BEAT THE LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
     
  2. adoo

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    actually there are ~ 56 ethnic groups in China, all of them are of the Asian race.
     
  3. yuantian

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    no, 2 of those 56 are white. one of those central asian nomads, forgot was the kazaks or the tajiks or the other. they are whites. also the russians who after taking manchu's land migrated there.
     
  4. yuantian

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    there maybe some laker spies here. :D
     
  5. adoo

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    There are KFC's, McDonalds, Deparment stores, high rise buildings, etc. all over China, not just the Tibet region.

    The PRC has been brutal rulers against all ethnic groups in China---Shanghai people, Cantonese, Beijingese, Tibetians, Manchus, etc. The Tibetians are one of few ethnic groups not subject to China's one-child policy.
     
  6. langal

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    i dunno if you're being sarcastic here.

    your first statement decried China's lack of openness.

    your second statement supports such a restriction.

    also - claiming "genocide" is pretty lame. makes me want to pull out my "race card".
     
  7. yuantian

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    youtube is so fake. they stopped the view numbers on this video. stopped loading comments. what a bunch of ****ing losers. where the **** is freedom of speech? america is the definition of double standard. book it.
     
  8. yuantian

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    lol, after so many complaints. youtube renewed the counts. not sure about the deleted comments though.
     
  9. gotoloveit2

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    Why so? I thought the ultimate goal of the PRC is "genocide". ;)
     
  10. hooroo

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    http://www.keyetv.com/news/world/story.aspx?content_id=86e7960d-4248-47c5-9fa0-aa9da0224195
     
  11. wizkid83

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    Everything is relative, what I want to see is how much better Tibetan's financial numbers relative to the Hans overtime in Tibet (I don't know where to start and since I'm not paid/graded for this research, if you can kindly point me to the actual numbers, it'd be greatly appreciated). But really we're arguing just a part of my original post and it seems you're missing the overall message of my first post.

    Please re-read my original post and the tone of it. It was partially satirical (the Native American refrence) to American's own past policies. However, I am also belief that the mass are sheeps and can be lead to conform, especially when it preys on basic human flaws (greed, envy, fear, and lust). I'm also merely pointing out that certain change in policies to prey on those basic flaws can induce social pacifism. The policies in Tibet is obviously not working right now, it's not about right or wrong. Merely what can and can not work. For whatever reason, things aren't working right now, instead of wasting energy debating what is right or wrong action, the debate should be what can paicfy the region and improve (or the perceived) quality of life over there.

    My posts are layered like a wedding cake, you gotta start looking for meanings with meanigs :D . Please don't pick individual parts you find contentious and drive argument in that direction. Internalize the message for the overall theme. If there are parts that I can be more clear about let me know, I do have a tendency to ramble sometimes.

    To MFW, majority of the arguments you posted sounds like sound bites from U.S. conservatives on why Blacks and Hispanics fail in the U.S. and that certains social programs (such as affirmative action) needs to be cut. i don't agree with it and believe that the structure of the society is only as strong as its weakiest link. If that link doesn't hold up, even a small minority group and bring unrest/trouble for a much larger region. If that link is weak, the rest of society, even out of its own self interest, needs to strengthen it.
     
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    I guess giving them a bunch of casino licenses doesn't work over there?
     
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    Difference between China and Clutchfans...

    China=Dictatorship
    Clutchfans=Virtual Kingdom

    Whee.

    Also, for all those claiming the double standard of the "Western" media/world; no matter how you slice it, you're using excuses to justify China's atrocious human rights record. Yes, I said atrocious and I can get the Amnesty figures etc. to prove it if I have to. Point is, China's human rights record is very sketchy, so there has to be SOME attention paid to this matter with regards to how China will treat the rioters.
     
  14. langal

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    You misinterpret my point. My point is that a lot of the "glasnost" types here only want to hear their point of view. Then they have the audacity to say we are "pro-genocide".
     
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    Fine.

    But I think you might be missing a point as well. Well, two. The first being that hyperbole rules the internet, the second being that China has such a shady record with the media/human rights (ex: Tiananmen Square->Google China) that it is very hard for even an impartial observer not to doubt the way facts are being presented to us in this case.
     
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    KC has been here about 6 years. With hyperbole practitioner extraordinaire B-Bob and world traveler, ace photographer SamFisher, the three are the snitzit when it comes to the latest fur fashions. KingCheetah is a somebody here, if anyone really is. (I always thought we were ones and zeros... some have more zeros than others, of course)

    What's your gig? (I go after replicants)




    Impeach Bush.
     
  17. yeo

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    Good thing you are acknowledging they were "rioters", not "peaceful protestors". Well, rioters will be treated the way rioters are treated worldwide. Oh, we might give them a little "waterboarding" too, since it's not torture according to the US government.
     
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    Seriously, wth, stop using other gouvernments/countries to defend your position. :/

    I'm Canadian. Come up with something there.

    Maybe China will..."Oka Crisis" them Tibetans? Yeah, we're already past that stage XD

    ...Also, while I think things might be a bit heated, I think Tibetans are doing the right thing. I might have classified them as "rioters", but just like the race riots in France and in LA, I think there are very legitimate reasons as to why such violence would happen. And I think it'd be in China's best intrest to go towards solving those issues instead of whitewashing it and hiding it away.
     
  19. yeo

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    "People's war" in action. Civilians volunteers receiving riot equipment. It might surprise some people here that most of these volunteers are actually Tibetans.
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    People returning to the streets. Life is gradually returning to normal even though scars remain, much to the disappointment of the Dollies I am sure.

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  20. yuantian

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    i think we've mentioned earlier that the best solution is to have social and racial balance. that way, everyone will be happy and peaceful. after all, no sane people in the world want violence. but, organizing riots, does not help anything. long live peace. :D
     

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