Sammy, the 100,000 figure is well documented. That is the high end estimate too. Ever heard of a census? And why I left anywhere, like I said, not only does it not add to the discussion, it is none of your ******* business. However, I do see that it serves the purpose to show you as a moron with an agenda. As for whether I am or am not Chinese/American/English/Kiwi/Banana/Apple/Coconut/whatever, I don't care what you believe, none of it adds to the discussion. But since you care so much, let me ask you. Since you have problems answering simple questions, I'll put it in multiple choice format too. SamFisher is a: a) Liar b) Moron c) All of the above Take your time, think it over, then let me know.
[rquoter] UCMJ extends to civilian contractors - Gates "Jim" sent me this little gem. The MSM misses most important things and this is one of them. Under this Department of Defense directive, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates takes action to assure the extension of the authority of US military law over all civilians serving with or for US military forces. The direcives provides authority for officers and NCOs to arrest and detain persons seen conducting a crime and for military authorities to pursue investigations that may lead to trial by general court martial. The directive requires DoD to inform the US Department of Justice (DoJ) that it is proceeding against particular civilians. This provision exists to allow DoJ to take charge of the case involving civilians if it wishes. If DoJ declines then the military is authorized to proceed under its own legal system. This would appear to settle the issue of how to deal with private armies of the "Blackwater" type in criminal matters. Comment from you lawyers? pl http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/files/gates-ucmj.pdf [/rquoter]
The last few posts of yours have displayed increasing aggression and frustration ~ I hope you will take a moment to calm yourself with a Falun Gong meditation exercise.
The same "free" world news agencies that have been caught red handed lying, multiple times? I think condemnation from those groups is hardly something to worry about. Oh the irony. It's killing me with laughter again. Cropping photos, labeling Nepalese police as Chinese Army, claiming that Chinese Army incited the violence by dressing as Tibetan monks, etc etc etc. And all that is just in the last couple of weeks. If we accumulate all the lies over the years, we'd have a pretty long scrapbook. Toss that in the pile of unproven allegations over the years, you'd fill a library. So I do think it's pretty funny that one would stand in front of those facts and declare self-righteously "Chinese propaganda press releases are fooling no one but the most loyal nationalists and citizens without access to outside media." Look around you, every Chinese poster here have far more access to various outside media than you. They also speak the language as to be able to hear the story from the other side, not to mention, in a general sense, know WAY MUCH MORE about Tibet than you ever did. You on the other hand, are the one covering your ear and saying "I'm not listening I'm not listening" when certain facts contrary to your world view is brought to your attention. Western/"Free Tibet" propaganda vs. CCP propaganda? Which one is more effective? It looks like CCP propaganda is pretty clumsy. Oh yes, they try to hide certain events. Western/"Free Tibet" propaganda? That's the way to go. Those that believe them don't even know they are brainwashed.
Well documented . . . by the Chinese government. Chinese have no excuse to be so bad at math - accordingly I rest my case.
Aggression and frustration? Nahhh. Like I said, just calling a spade a spade. On the other hand though, I'm not against a Warren Jeffs style harem. That can do my um,... "health" a lot of good. Good for them.
'cause we all know that soldiers PLA would not dress up in Tibetan Budhist robes ever and have never done it in the past. That idea is simply ridiculous. er.... well.... Spoiler They were just helping monks with their laundry, right? (This image is from 2003, when faux PLA monks were used for a bit of patriotic education. But it does show that the idea of the PLA dressing up in Tibetan Monks robes isn't so laughable as you make it out to be.)
And the only official source too. But then again, Dalai can count better in his sleep without setting foot in Tibet. He is a holy man after all. Wait, is he a god or just a holy man? But since you have so much problems with the official source, surely you can point out why. Why drag your feet on the issue? Why not let the whole world know the source? Oh I know, because I wouldn't be surprised if certain sources shall trace their funding to a certain city called Dharamsala.
MFW - you have much greater concerns now than just being stuck citing CCP figures as reliable - Ottomaton has you behind the 8 ball. TRIAGE
HA HA HA HA HA HA. Hold on a second. HA HA HA HA HA HA. I knew that picture would show up around here sooner or later. That as a matter of fact is the exact same picture that those Tibetan exile groups used to "prove" the PLA is dressing up as monks. Prepare for a humiliation: 1. Those aren't the PLA, that's the PAP 2. The pictures are taken in 2002, not 2008 3. Those pictures were taken when the PAP were hired as extras to Michelle Yeoh's 2002 movie 天脉传奇, they couldn't find enough lamas for the roles so they hired a bunch of PAP officers. You could have easily told that if you realize that the uniforms they were wearing is the 87 edition, out of service for years, as well as the fact that they were wearing summer uniforms, inconsistent with current weather in Tibet. Here is the blog of a former officer who participated in the movie: http://www.my0832.com/3773/photo/25134.html And here is a piece in English: http://propaganda-buster.blogspot.com/2008/04/did-chinese-army-stage-tibetan-riots.html "PLA" in monk robes not laughable? Certainly isn't if you are an idiot who doesn't know what's going on. How embarrassing for you.
Your credibility rating is hovering at zero MFW -- but we appreciate your admission that the CCP is clumsily hiding events reported by media outside of China.
Read my previous post KingCheetah. See if your tiny brain can comprehend. Then in a couple of days come back so I can laugh at you again.
Oh poor me. Poor my zero credibility. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-04/06/content_6594061.htm Allegation of police joining riots as 'monks' disproved (Xinhua) Updated: 2008-04-06 09:37 BEIJING -- Two witnesses have been found in Tibet who disproved allegations that Chinese People's Armed Police (PAP) servicemen joined the March 14 Lhasa riots wearing monk's robes. A picture was posted on the Internet showing tens of Chinese People's Armed Police (PAP) servicemen, wearing summer uniforms and holding monks' robes. This photo was linked to allegations by the Dalai clique that those PAP members dressed as Tibetan monks and rioted on March 14 in Lhasa. In a China Central Television (CCTV) news program on Saturday evening, journalists identified and interviewed two of the servicemen appeared in the picture who confirmed that it was taken in 2001 during a movie shooting. Liu Pengbo who served as a sergeant in 2001 and now a first lieutenant of a PAP unit in Tibet told journalists that they were prepared to act as figurants in a movie named The Torch shot in 2001. The monk's robes they hold in arms were actually theatrical costumes distributed by the movie's making staff, Liu said. The lieutenant confirmed that they wear winter uniforms in March and their uniforms have been changed to a new style with chest insignia and shoulder badge since May 2006. Shao Hong is the other found witness who finished service in 2004 and now works in Lhasa. He told the CCTV journalists that the uniforms they worn in the picture were summer uniforms of 1987 pattern which apparently had no badges and chest insignia. "It was in September that year and it was still quite warm. You can see the surrounding civilians also worn quite thin clothes," Shao said. The footage also confirmed another evidence to disapprove the allegation by picturing man-driven pedicab in Lhasa, capital of Tibet Autonomous Region. Pedicabs in the city have been decorated with blue-red-green mixing strips on the hood of passenger cab since October 2004. The strips on the pedicabs appeared in the picture were only blue, which proves that it was taken before October 2004.
What do you expect? That's the same character, who argued with New Yorker - the most illogical poster, back and forth non-stop about visiting him in NYC to reason with him in person, to be paid by New Yorker. Even if people are ignorant about the event or the uniform style, but any sane people would realize such "conspiracy" wouldn't be pulled off in public, in front of bunch of smiling Tibetan Chinese. Logic is always a luxury here in D & D, espeically for certain posters. The same pathetic character used a he-says and she-says story 20 years ago, and other 2 blogs to "justify" his shameless attack that it is a WELL-KNOWN FACT people from China are racists against blacks. That is what you are facing.
Why would the Chinese PAPs want to smear the Tibetan Monks in a dress rehearsal when there is a population of extras available to perform the role ~ (discrimination)? It is good to know that these outfits are available to assist with the current situation -- inciting riots, causing confusion, spreading the government propaganda of violent Tibetans. I am shocked that China Daily has disproved these allegations -- I am also surprised that MFW has resorted to childish name calling always a sure sign of a desperate poster.
I guess you didn't actually read the text of my post? If you did, you would note that I said the photo was taken in 2003 not 2008. But I guess you were so eager for your denuncination that you didn't see that it very nearly agreed with what I was saying? As far as the difference between the PLA and the People's Armed Police, there is no fundimental difference. They are both heavily armed Bejing directed forces imposing order on Tibet. If it makes you happy I will admit that I mistook the PLA for the PLP. I would probably mistake the PLAN or the PLAAF for the PLA also. I should probably have said Chinese military forces. But it also makes no real difference to my point that Chinese military have dressed up as Tibetan monks in the past.
Why would you use PAP as extras? Um, because they are cheaper to hire. Already salaried, a small bonus is all it takes to get them to take part. And me using childish name calling? This coming from the guy that got humiliated after saying I have zero credibility and now is trying to adopt face saving measures? Pure comedy. I'm sorry, what's your point again? And the PLA not different from the PAP? Um yeah. One fights armies the other fights crime. There is no difference between them if you ignore the at least couple weeks of basic combat (not to mention battlefield survival) training the PLA has. Saying the PAP is no different than the PLA is like saying SWAT teams and LAPD is no different than the US Army. Golly, they don't need a draft, just package the police to Iraq.
