Dont' stop there, there are all sorts of historical atrocities in the past that we can talk about. Let's go ahead and use all of them to justify present-day conduct by unrelated parties.
Another story from the Times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3551219.ece From The Times March 15, 2008 China faces crisis as world leaders call for restraint China faced one of its most serious political crises in two decades as Tibetans resentful of Beijing rule set fire to swaths of Lhasa. The army responded by sending armed personnel carriers onto the streets. Angry Tibetans attacked ethnic Han Chinese and gunshots echoed in the streets as security forces tried to restore order. Bodies were seen lying in the streets. The anti-Chinese unrest, which has spread beyond Lhasa to far-flung Tibetan monasteries beyond the region’s borders, is precisely what China wants to avoid as it seeks to present a stable and prosperous face to the world for the Olympics in August. The People’s Liberation Army sent armoured personnel carriers and troops into the streets of Lhasa to curb running battles between angry young Tibetans and ethnic Han. From his home in exile in India, the Dalai Lama called on Beijing not to use brute force to quash the demonstrations. Witnesses said they saw six bodies in the streets tonight, although this could not be independently confirmed. In the Barkhor market that winds around the Jokhang temple, Tibet’s holiest site, they reported the bodies of two Tibetan men and two Tibetan women. The body of a Tibetan man was seen in the Lugu district and a Tibetan woman lay dead on Qingnian Road, near the city centre. They said all appeared to have been shot but no monks were seen among the dead. Many ethnic Han Chinese, a minority in Tibet, were wounded in attacks by Tibetans hurling rocks and bricks as they vented their anger against Beijing rule. Residents said a number of Han had been killed but no figures were available as the city was engulfed in chaos. One Han Chinese was stabbed by a Tibetan directly in front of the institute of traditional Tibetan medicine, a witness said. The Lhasa Municipal People’s Hospital said nine of the wounded were receiving treatment for injuries ranging from stab wounds to head injuries. One nurse said: “We have given people stitches and others have been bandaged. Most of the injured were Han Chinese.” Long after night fell, fires blazed across the city as mobs of angry young Tibetans set light to shops and cars owned by Han Chinese. “There is smoke everywhere still, even this late at night,” said one resident. The upsurge of violence follows four days of demonstrations by lamas from monasteries around the Tibetan capital demanding greater freedom of religion before the Olympic Games as well as independence for the deeply Buddhist Himalayan region and the return of the Dalai Lama. The violence escalated at around 11am when monks from the 7th century Ramoche monastery staged a demonstration. Police tried to stop the lamas from racing onto the streets of Lhasa and a police car posted outside the monastery gate was set on fire as hundreds of Tibetans then rallied around the monks. One resident of the old city near the monastery told The Times: “It’s very dangerous. Tibetans are fighting the Han people in the street outside. I can’t talk because I’m afraid.” Residents said the police withdrew from the city centre as the violence escalated. People’s Liberation Army troops moved in at around 6pm, to be greeted with cheers by Han Chinese and ethnic Hui Muslim residents. “Long Live the Communist Party,” they shouted. “You should have come sooner.” But the military patrols firing teargas and bullets had failed to restore order late tonight. Rampaging mobs who earlier in the day set alight to the sprawling, concrete Tromsikhang market, built in 1993, had disappeared. But young Tibetan men and women were hiding in houses and doorways, waiting to dart out to hurl rocks and set fires to shops as soon as each army cavalcade had passed, witnesses said. One said: “People have been bottling up their anger for 20 years, but now those feelings have exploded.” Military trucks equipped with loudspeakers circled the city, ordering people to return to their homes and warning: “You must bear the consequences.” Lhasa radio and television repeatedly broadcast a statement in Tibetan and Chinese from the city government that accused the Dalai Lama of orchestrating the violence and warned people not to take part. The broadcast said: “This small number of rioters is supported by the Dalai clique. All officials and people must listen to the Government and unite to form a stable and harmonious society. We must value this precious harmony and must struggle against the splittists until the end.” The Dalai Lama, who fled into exile during a failed uprising against Chinese rule that erupted on March 10, 1959, urged all sides to exercise restraint, but described the demonstrations as a manifestation of deep-rooted resentment among the Tibetan people. He said: “These protests are a manifestation of the deep-rooted resentment of the Tibetan people under the present governance. I therefore appeal to the Chinese leadership to stop using force and address the long-simmering resentment of the Tibetan people through dialogue with the Tibetan people.” Britain, the European Union and the United States joined the calls for restraint. David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, said: “There are probably two important messages to go out - one is the need for restraint on all sides and secondly that substantive dialogue is the only way forward.” Bernard Kouchner, the French Foreign Minister, urged respect for human rights. He said: “There is strong condemnation, coming from all the European Council and the 27 countries.” The United States told China to act with restraint when dealing with protesters in Tibet and again asked Beijing to talk to Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama. News of the unrest had spread quickly across the Himalayan plateau. Some 200 nuns and 10 monks from Qushuixian county near Lhasa began to march towards the city in the late afternoon but were turned back halfway. Local villagers who tried to join the demonstration were also stopped and ordered to return home. Buddhist monks have launched a hunger strike to demand paramilitary police release fellow lamas arrested earlier in the week when hundreds took to the streets in the largest protests seen in the restive region since 1989. Two have attempted suicide in protest. In March 1989, thousands of Tibetans rioted in the streets of Lhasa, setting fire to shops and causing widespread damage in a rampage that prompted the government to impose martial law. Tibet has been seen periodic outbreaks of anti-Chinese unrest since Chairman Mao’s troops entered the region in 1950. Nine years later, Tibetans staged a failed uprising against Beijing rule and the Dalai Lama fled into exile in India. Tens of thousands of Tibetans were killed.
can't the same be said to americans? honestly, chinese are looking out for the interest of china. i don't see why that's delusional. everyone in the world is looking out for themselves.
100 people died according to Tibet's government-in-exile http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/N...ile:Reports Of 100 Dead In China Protests AFP Tibet Government In Exile:Reports Of 100 Dead In China Protests AFP DHARAMSHALA, India (AFP)--Tibet's government-in-exile said Saturday it had received "unconfirmed reports" of as many as 100 deaths in unrest in the Chinese-controlled Himalayan region. "We have unconfirmed reports about 100 people had been killed and martial law imposed in Lhasa," said a statement from the government-in-exile, based in northern India. It said it was "deeply concerned" by reports "emanating from all three regions of Tibet of random killings, injuries and arrest of thousands of Tibetans peacefully protesting against the Chinese policy." "The recent protest reflects the true sentiments of Tibetans inside Tibet and the yearning to be free from the repressive Chinese regime," it added. (END) Dow Jones Newswires 03-15-080324ET Copyright (c) 2008 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
...I'm surprised the Dalai Lama has kept Tibet relativly peaceful for the last couple of years, now that you think about it.
i doubt he has that much power in terms of controlling inside. probably organized for a while. we'll see. i think the result of this, will mean, harder control and more intelligence. maybe even claims of terrorism. who knows. nothing good will come out of this. except, i do believe, the government will pump more money into the region to balance the income of different ethnic groups. that's one good thing that i hope comes out of it.
On the contrary, a lot of people will believe it, or they will pretend to believe it. CNN is using it as their headline, as if it's the proven truth. When it comes to pursuing an agenda, journalistic integrity goes out the window. See the picture below, on the left is the cropped picture used by CNN, on the right is the actual photo. See the diffrence in what they portray?
ya, people here think everything they do or say is right. they don't care about others. they'll alter the truth to prove their point. bush?
I don't think it's even possible for Tibet to be an independent country, for so many obvious reasons. However Chinese Government needs to realize that with so much blood being split, it will take generations to ease the hatred between Tibetan and other races in China. Till these day, event like Nangpa La shootings are still happening, and let's not forget that many people still has the memory of the massacre that happened there in 1959. Racial integration could be a long and painful process, there're some shorter paths that some counties found success, but I don't think anyone would like to see that happen. I understand the Chinese Government won't let Tibet go, but they can let Tibetan go. Not every one is spy from India, and they should be able to at least get the hell away if they found it hard to live with other races. Slave master or not, Dalai Lama is indeed their spiritual leader, it's much better for his hardcore fans to follow him around than burning cars in Tibet.
it's more than just generations. i still remember more than 100 years ago, when tibet sacked and looted the chinese capital when people were having civil war. i will never forgive and forget that. on a serious note, when you are next to each other, there will always be tension. there is no way around that.
Wow! Is there any photoshop expert here? Can someone confirm that the picture on the right is the original picture? If it is. It has to be a perfect indictment on how biased CNN is. They would rather doctor a picture to tell a story than use the original picture to report the news. Assuming the picture on the right is the original picture.
You could only see it with a super computer. I bought one at Walmart last week when it was on sale. They gave me a $100 rebate too. Great deal.
Lol, that's a good one. Look at the bright side, till this point the stories I've got, the army was ordered not to fire a single bullet, and very limited death caused by this riot(Yeah CNN.... one minute ago it's 10 people, then all of a suddent 100, try harder....). Hope they can keep it that way, local folks can enjoy their new found sports, people from other races just stay at home for few good days rest, and at the end everyone be happy...
Not saying it is not. But if some one has the picture of the same location at some other time, without all the fog, military vehicles, and rioters, and if that picture matches the one on the right, then that will prove CNN did indeed doctored the picture.
BTW, not an expert, it's hella hard to keep two comletely photo fit with each other, talking about shadows, colors, consistency in the image. It that was photoshoped, I would pay very high price for who ever did it, to work for me, cause that's one of the most amazing master piece I've ever seen. So look at this way, if the left one is true, then the right one must be fake, which is, as I mentioned above, master piece of work.
