See, the thing about social and racial balence and stuff mentioned (yes, I have been skimming but I think I have the gist of it) is that it sounds like some far-away dreamland. And given how China is reacting to the situation, we're a lot further from that dreamland then the Knicks are to being a legitimate NBA team. I think the world would be a lot better place if China just fessed up and admitted that what it is doing in Tibet is wrong, just like how America fessed up about blacks and natives. I'd agree with you that riots don't help the cause, but given how Tibet has been ignored the last couple of years, something should've happened. Violence without cause is despicable. Violence with cause can be a head-turner and one of the greatest motivators of change. China needs to reconize that there is a problem...and that the problem can't just be ignored and "social balenced" away.
Canadian? Well, Free Quebec! I know, I know, I am harping on other peoples' sins again. It's just that I have this little problem with self-righteous hypocrites, that's all.
I should've added...I'm from Quebec XP But yeah, I can see where you're coming from. Can't speak of other people, but myself, I don't really get into this to say Canada is better then China...just that I reconize China has it's virtues and it's faults and I feel Tibet is one of the faults...but I realize some of us, myself included, might sound a bit too self-righteous. The Internet for ya
you must haven't seen how they reacted to other riots in other parts before. i am actually surprised that they didn't act harshly. i think due to technology, and media attention, there will not be any harsh reaction.
Well, the thing is, the "Americans" never left America did they, whatever they admit or don't admit? Same as that, the Chinese are in Tibet to stay, and that's that. The Tibetans simply has to accept it. The Dalai Lama has claimed that he accepts Chinese sovereignty, but given his history of flip-flopping on this position and the extreme vagueness of the "cultural autonomy" which he demands, I don't blame the Chinese government for being extremely skeptical. And the latest incident certainly does not help things. Anyone who believes this riot was "spontaneous" and not organized and incited by Dalai is delusional. Hundreds of people don't just show up at the same time with machetes, packs full of rocks, and molotov-cocktails "spontaneously". I am not as pessimistic as you are. Despite the latest incident, I think China's policy of economic development and integration in Tibet is working. Tibet had been peaceful for almost 20 years before this, and it wasn't because of Dalai's kindness as some here seem to believe. It's because of a growing Tibetan middle class who are secular and has a stake in the status-quo. If you read the reports, especially the eye-witness accounts, you can tell that the majority of Tibetan society was non-particpants in the riots and expressed horror and revulsion towards the violence. A riot can be started with a few hundred hooligans, but a society's true stability rests on its middle class. I continue to believe that most Tibetans, just like the rest of us, simply want a stable and prosperous life, which China (and not Dalai) can provide. Anyway, time will tell whether I am right or wrong. Gotta go. GOOOOO ROCKETS!
When a band comes to America from another country do they have to check the set list songs with the US government for appropriateness? Just curious -- back on topic... There is a reason the government of Tibet continues to function outside of the country as exiles -- they understand it is only a matter of time before they return. Tibet needs only to organize a lasting rebellion against China -- these small reactionary protests while grabbing worldwide headlines were relatively minor in the grand scheme.
You are truly delusional. They tried that in 1959, with CIA help too, against a China which was far weaker than today, and failed miserably. There is a reason why Dalai is a "pacifist" you know. And there is a reason not a single country in the world recognizes Tibet as independent.
Communist land grabs of the 40s and 50s haven't been the most successful endeavor -- Tibet will join the long list of nations occupied by a communist government only to regain sovereignty after weathering the storm. If Tibet can organize a true rebellion they will greatly expedite their cause as China clearly has cold feet when it comes to retaking land they claim to own.
why are you always talking about Communist? none of us here are. some of you still have really old cold war mentality. we are the new generation of oversea people.
Well then call me a conservative. Handouts don't bring motivation. Handouts bring a sense of entitlement. Let me ask you something in your black/Hispanics example. Are white trailer trash less entitled than black/Hispanic poors? They certainly would be among the weakest link. Affirmative Action certainly isn't propping them up the same way poor ethnic Hans aren't being propped up by inequivalent handouts.
bwahahaha, poor ethnic hans can't catch a break in china - with the exception of all the tax breaks, etc the government gives them to resettle in tibet, which is why they own the place now. LIke I said before - just get it over with and slaughter or deport all the Tibetans - it's inevitable, so just nut up and do it.
[me going all confucious-ish] Weakest link is not that which is made of the cheapest material, but that which is easiest to break [/me going all confucious-ish]
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080316/D8VEIL4O0.html Why is China blocking Youtube now? Methinks they have something to hide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo watch this and read all the oversea people's comments. i think the reason behind it is, if people saw all the western media there will be a massive riots of nationalistic people demanding something to be done to those mobs. the government in many occasions tried to cool down the nationalism within. it's a big threat if out of control.
well, my video of a bunch of tibetans beating up a non-tibetan has been deleted by youtube because it showed too much violence ... but then again hundreds of other street fighting videos are left along ... so why has the video that I posted got singled out?
Dunno, get a lawyer or something and see if you have a case. Google owns it so maybe you can write some nasty letters, or start your own version of youtube (or just use toudou or something).
well, the level of violence shown in my video indeed breaches the community guide line, so from that point of view, i can see how deleting my video can be justified, my only gripe is that other videos of violence are allowed to exist ... more videos of peaceful protests <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/DU-Hhv_Ve54&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/DU-Hhv_Ve54&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> on the other hand, another copy of the same video seems to have slipped through the cracks ... <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/lFY1j8qs9mk&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/lFY1j8qs9mk&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
Yeah, I think things Youtube and Gooogle does is more to protect itself from lawsuits more than anything, and I don't think they should delete your video. Email a compalint or something, though like all corporation, it'll probably fall on deaf years.
The only examine videos if someone reports them using the 'flag' button, at which point they review it to see if they fit the stated criteria. If nobody comes along and complains, then the clips are never examined. They really don't care about inappropriate content per se. They care about people who complain about inappropriate content, and all the trouble that they can cause for You Tube. The same applies copyrighted materials. Only if a copyright holder complains do they care if you post something that is copyrighted.
