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  1. HoustonCRT

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    I'd be thrilled if Llull came over and we could pull off a Ryno for Bazemore trade.
     
  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Trade him to a team that says to themselves "I am sorry unless picks and other sweeteners are involved, I literally don't see why any team would want [My Team Player X]." ......hey maybe I can trade Player X for Ryan Anderson!

    Another man's trash is another man's treasure. Not every team is set up the same.
     
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  3. ghettocheeze

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    Rockets:
    • Ryan Anderson ($20,421,546 -- 2 years)

    Knicks:
    • Courtney Lee ($12,253,780 -- 2 years)
    • Lance Thomas ($7,119,650 -- 2 years)

    Lee is shooting 40% from 3PT again so he would do wonders on the Rockets coming off the bench after Gordon. Plus, Thomas is another tough wing defender who can switch on guards.
     
  4. mockster

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    I mean I’m sorry I just don’t see it that way, all the so called “trash” players people are listing here I’m just thinking why on earth would they swap them for Anderson. His only skill is shooting and he can’t eveb do that
     
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    I never said you outright claim they’re false nor did I say you should be or claim to be a source.

    I’d love this.. mainly because I think it’s possible
     
  6. DVauthrin

    DVauthrin Contributing Member

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    Ryan Anderson for Allen Crabbe or DeMarre Carroll
    Ryan Anderson for Evan Turner
    Ryan Anderson and salary matching pieces for Nicolas Batum
    Ryan Anderson for Wilson Chandler and Kenneth Faried
     
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  7. J.R.

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    Here we go...:cool:

    No, I haven't checked them in the trade machine, not saying all or any of the teams would do them because they wouldn't and I'm not sure I'd do some of them. And contrary to ClutchFans complaining :), as Yule C, Ryan Anderson is not the only bad terrible no good contract. That said...

    Ryan Anderson
    2018-19: $20,421,546
    2019-20: $21,264,635
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    Kent Bazemore (I'd probably do it, I'm not sure Atlanta would.)
    2018-19: $18,089,887
    2019-20: $19,269,662 (Player Option)

    Dennis Schroder
    2018-19: $15,500,000
    2019-20: $15,500,000
    2020-21: $15,500,000

    Miles Plumlee
    2018-19: $12,500,000
    2019-20: $12,500,000

    Allen Crabbe (I'd probably do it, I'm not sure Brooklyn would.)
    2018-19: $18,500,000
    2019-20: $18,500,000 (Player Option)

    Timofey Mozgov (No thanks)
    2018-19: $16,000,000
    2019-20: $16,720,000

    DeMarre Carroll (Brooklyn would not.)
    2018-19: $15,400,000

    Nic Batum (This seems to be a popular one recently but I'm not sure I'd do it. I think many are remembering the Portland Batum and not the Charlotte/current Batum)
    2018-19: $24,000,000
    2019-20: $25,565,217
    2020-21: $27,130,434 (Player Option)

    Cody Zeller (Charlotte doesn't do it)
    2018-19: $13,528,090
    2019-20: $14,471,910
    2020-21: $15,415,730

    Omer Asik + Cristiano Felicio
    Asik
    2018-19: $11,286,516
    2019-20: $11,977,527 (Early Termination Option)

    Felicio
    2018-19: $8,470,980
    2019-20: $8,156,500
    2020-21: $7,529,020

    Kevin Love (Cleveland doesn't do it. Cavs reportedly expecting to keep Love. "Joe Vardon of Cleveland.com is reporting that the Cavaliers do not intend to trade Kevin Love if they lose LeBron James in free agency this summer. It has been assumed by many that the Cavs would simply clean house if LeBron leaves. However, Vardon, a plugged-in beat reporter, has been told that Cleveland "would rather try to make the playoffs than immediately begin rebuilding without their iconic star." However, even if James exits, the Cavs will still be above the cap. They can exceed the cap to re-sign Rodney Hood and will have a $5.3 million mid-level exception to spend.)
    2018-19: $24,119,025
    2019-20: $25,595,700 (Player Option)

    George Hill (Cleveland doesn't do it.)
    2018-19: $19,000,000
    2019-20: $18,000,000 (2019-20 salary $1.0M guaranteed until 7/1/2019)

    Tristan Thompson (James Harden nor I approve of this trade.)
    2018-19: $17,469,565
    2019-20: $18,539,130

    J.R. Smith (Bonehead J.R., no thanks.)
    2018-19: $14,720,000
    2019-20: $15,680,000 (2019-20 salary $3.87M guaranteed until 6/30/2019 then fully guaranteed)

    Jordan Clarkson + Kyle Korver (Cleveland doesn't do it.)
    Clarkson
    2018-19: $12,500,000
    2019-20: $13,437,500

    Korver
    2018-19: $7,560,000
    2019-20: $7,500,000 (2019-20 salary $3,440,000 guaranteed until 7/7/2019)

    Harrison Barnes (Mavs don't do it.)
    2018-19: $24,107,258
    2019-20: $25,102,512 (Player Option)

    Mason Plumlee + Ken Faried OR Mason Plumlee + Wilson Chandler OR Ken Faried + Wilson Chandler for Ryan Anderson, Nene & Chinanu Onuaku
    Plumlee (While they want off Faried & Chandler, both are expiring and I don't see why they'd take on the extra year of Ryan. Denver doesn't do it.)
    2018-19: $12,917,808
    2019-20: $14,041,096

    Faried
    2018-19: $13,764,045

    W.Chandler
    2018-19: $12,800,562

    Blake Griffin for Ryan Anderson + Nene + Chinanu Onuaku + Zhou Qi OR Ryan Anderson + Eric Gordon (If you really want to go "all in", ha! ... Maybe you get a pick back for taking on Griffin's deal?)
    2018-19: $32,088,932
    2019-20: $34,449,964
    2020-21: $36,810,996
    2021-22: $38,957,028 (Player Option)

    Reggie Jackson (No thanks)
    2018-19: $17,043,478
    2019-20: $18,086,956

    Jon Leuer + Langston Galloway (Detroit probably doesn't do it.)
    Leuer
    2018-19: $10,002,681
    2019-20: $9,508,043

    Galloway
    2018-19: $7,000,000
    2019-20: $7,333,333

    Danilo Gallinari (One guy who can't play for a guy who can't play because he's always injured. Pass.)
    2018-19: $21,587,579
    2019-20: $22,615,559

    Luol Deng (Dead weight for Dead weight. Nope.)
    2018-19: $18,000,000
    2019-20: $18,810,000

    Chandler Parsons (LOL)
    2018-19: $24,107,258
    2019-20: $25,102,511

    (Pat Riley striving to be mediocre with these contracts below.)

    Hassan Whiteside (Two $20M+ centers? Probably not.)
    2018-19: $25,434,263
    2019-20: $27,093,018 (Player Option)

    Tyler Johnson (Miami probably doesn't do it.)
    2018-19: $19,245,370
    2019-20: $19,245,370 (Player Option)

    James Johnson + Kelly Olynyk OR James Johnson + Dion Waiters OR Kelly Olynyk + Dion Waiters for Ryan Anderson
    Johnson
    2018-19: $14,651,700
    2019-20: $15,349,400
    2020-21: $16,047,10 (Player Option)

    Waiters
    2018-19: $11,550,000
    2019-20: $12,100,000
    2020-21: $12,650,000

    Olynyk
    2018-19: $11,137,527
    2019-20: $11,667,885
    2020-21: $12,198,243 (Player Option)

    John Henson + Tony Snell OR John Henson + Matthew Dellavedova OR Tony Snell + Matthew Dellavedova for Ryan Anderson
    Henson
    2018-19: $10,577,466
    2019-20: $9,732,396

    Snell
    2018-19: $10,607,143
    2019-20: $11,392,857
    2020-21: $12,178,571 (Player Option)

    Dellavedova
    2018-19: $9,607,500
    2019-20: $9,607,500

    Gorgui Dieng
    2018-19: $15,170,787
    2019-20: $16,229,213
    2020-21: $17,287,640

    Andrew Wiggins
    2018-19: $25,250,000
    2019-20: $27,270,000
    2020-21: $29,290,000
    2021-22: $31,310,000

    Solomon Hill + E'Twaun Moore for Ryan Anderson (Pelicans already had Anderson before; they have Mirotic now to fill that role. They don't do it.)
    Hill
    2018-19: $12,763,467
    2019-20: $13,290,395

    Moore
    2018-19: $8,808,685
    2019-20: $8,664,928

    Joakim Noah (NOPE)
    2018-19: $18,530,000
    2019-20: $19,295,000

    Tim Hardaway Jr. (Knicks don't do it.)
    2018-19: $17,325,000
    2019-20: $18,150,000
    2020-21: $18,975,000 (Player Option)

    Courtney Lee
    2018-19: $12,253,780
    2019-20: $12,759,670

    Carmelo Anthony
    2018-19: $27,928,140

    Bismack Biyombo (Pass.)
    2018-19: $17,000,000
    2019-20: $17,000,000 (Player Option)

    Brandon Knight
    2018-19: $14,631,250
    2019-20: $15,643,750

    Evan Turner
    2018-19: $17,868,853
    2019-20: $18,606,556

    Mo Harkless & Meyers Leonard for Ryan Anderson
    Harkless
    2018-19: $10,837,079
    2019-20: $11,511,234

    Leonard
    2018-19: $10,595,506
    2019-20: $11,286,515

    Paul Gasol (Spurs don't do it.)
    2018-19: $16,800,000
    2019-20: $16,000,000 (Non-guaranteed?)

    Serge Ibaka (Meh)
    2018-19: $21,666,667
    2019-20: $23,271,604

    Jonas Valanciunas
    2018-19: $16,539,326
    2019-20: $17,617,976 (Player Option)

    Ian Mahinmi
    2018-19: $15,944,154
    2019-20: $15,450,051

    Otto Porter (Wizards don't do it.)
    2018-19: $26,011,913
    2019-20: $27,250,576
    2020-21: $28,489,239 (Player Option)
     
  8. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    And fans on other team message boards and saying the same thing about their trash player. You need to take a step back and look at the macro.
     
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  9. Mastro

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    Anderson for Bazemore makes some sense as an Ariza replacement if he bolts.
     
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  10. Vivi

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    I actually forgot Brendon Knight exist lol, i wonder what is his trade value, i guess super low, still not sure they would trade him for Anderson straight up, probably not.

    But anyway, these are the kind of guys we should target, guys with low market value like Bazemore (i don't really see a team trade for him with that contract), a player that fits here, that has some sort of upside in terms of boosting his trade value by playing here, and with a flexible contract for our situation.

    Getting him by losing just some minor assets would be pretty good imo, i wouldn't be exited about the swap if we would lose a 1st rounder tbh, but for a couple of 2nd rounders or one and a young player well, i'd do that in a heartbeat.
     
  11. Snow Villiers

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    I like it
     
  12. DVauthrin

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    Batum sustained ligament damage in his shooting wrist this year during the preseason and played through it.

    Also, Steve Clifford is from the Van Gundy tree, so Batum spent the last three years in one of the more archaic offensive systems in the NBA. On the other hand, Terry Stotts in Portland is known as a good offensive coach. Plus, in Charlotte, Batum’s took on a primary scoring/ball handling role due to the roster construction, while, during his time in Portland, his role was more comparable to Ariza’s with the Rockets.
     
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    How come this post has only 3 likes? Trash jokes get 10 likes easily and this guy put all this great work and only 3 likes. Come on.
     
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  14. DVauthrin

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    This would be a good deal for the Rockets. Not sure why the Knicks do it though. Anderson isn’t a good fit next to Porzingis and they aren’t saving money/getting a sweetener in return.
     
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    when you say super low, you mean super high in the negative spectrum? He would be lucky to have zero value let alone low value.
     
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    Deserves its own thread.
     
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    TIFWIW as I think @malakas said Gery Woelfel isn't reliable. And Gery damn near listed half the league below.

    http://woelfelspressbox.com/2018/06/there-isnt-a-shortage-of-interest-in-parker/

    The Kings are, according to league sources, just one of numerous teams that wouldn’t mind having Parker on their roster next season

    [...]

    The $64,000 question is how much money a team will offer Parker to lure him away from Milwaukee. A longtime NBA executive whose team won’t pursue Parker because they don’t need a starting forward contends it’ll be hefty sum.

    “I think some teams will give him $20 million (a season) and there might be some teams that will make it tough on Milwaukee to match and offer him even more,’’ the NBA official said. “I think Milwaukee would like to keep him for $16 million or something around that figure, trying to use his injury situation to their advantage.

    [...]

    Another NBA official speculated the Philadelphia 76ers, who have a ton of cap space, could come into play for Parker, especially if they fail in their bid to land a coveted superstar.

    Besides Sacramento and Philadelphia, some other teams that have surfaced as potential landing spots for Parker Chicago, Utah, Indiana, Atlanta, Phoenix and Brooklyn.

    [...]

    While Parker agreeing to an offer sheet is a real possibility, some NBA officials contend a more likely scenario is Parker agreeing to a sign-and-trade deal. The Bucks undoubtedly would prefer a sign-and-trade as they could at least recoup something for a player who former Bucks coach Jason Kidd just last year said, along with Giannis Antekounmpo, was untouchable. It’s no secret the Bucks would be receptive to upgrading their center and/or point guard positions via a sign-and-trade arrangement.

    Two teams who could enter the picture in a sign-and-trade scenario are Houston and the Los Angeles Clippers. Both organizations have a high regard for Parker as a player and person. Houston, which advanced to the Western Conference Finals last season, clearly wants to add another quality player and is hoping to land either James or George, while the Clippers and Bucks had discussions before the trading deadline last February centering around Parker and Blake Griffin. Griffin eventually was dealt to the Detroit Pistons.

    “I don’t see him (Parker) signing early in free agency,’’ a source said. “I see something getting done with him maybe in late July or early August. I was told by one of his friends that he (Parker) loves Milwaukee. He loves the people there; he loves the city. He wouldn’t have paid all that money (reportedly around $1.5 million) to redo that warehouse he lives in if he didn’t like Milwaukee.

    “But I don’t see him staying there. If you’re asking me, it’s 75-25 he goes to another team.’’
     
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    Parker uh...another younger Melo basically. I wonder who would be a better bet for us between him and Gordon...

    Yep lol.
     
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    It seems to me, which is valueless in reality of course, that SL's greatest likelihood of coming over is to play with friends/Sp Nat'l Team mates...
     

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