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17 y/o tased on field during phillies game

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Roxboys, May 4, 2010.

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  1. tmoney1101

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    # of deaths caused by tasers > # of deaths caused by tackling.
     
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    easy...the scars are still healing


    I'm curious how Donny's tune will change after a few years on the force. Keep us updated.
     
  3. TopsDrop

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    The dumb kid even called his dad before he ran on the field.
     
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    That was probably the one smart thing he did. At least his dad was probably already prepared to pay his bail.
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    If I'm his dad he aint getting bailed out. Good luck son.
     
  6. Egghead

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    wow... this is 8 pages long
     
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    They should have used a taser on the Phillies fan who puked on the kid a couple weeks ago.
     
  8. Depressio

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    Made up statistic A > made up statistic B.

    Personally, I think a taser should only be used when imminent danger is afoot. Obviously, that kid wasn't going to hurt anyone so I don't think a taser was necessary. Then again, maybe he'd do an about face and attack Placido Polanco... but, as my signature says, hindsight is 20/20 isn't it?
     
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    Deaths are caused by tackling, though it generally means an underlying condition caused it, as would be with Tasing.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    You can see from the video and the still posted earlier in the thread that the cop appears to be winded.

    They give them firearms too would you be fine if he just shot the kid?

    As I've said before I am aware of the officer's training to use the taser but there is still a judgement call about when to use it. In this case it strikes me as being unnecessary and one that might've put the other security guards at risk who looked like they were about to run the kid down.

    No one is denying that the officer had the right to use the taser. It is a question of judgement. Tasers are new and are still being studied in regards to their effectiveness and safety. I would say that is even more reason to show some caution regarding their use than to just fire away.
     
  11. tmoney1101

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    You thought that his made up statistic was better than mine?

    Yeah, I guess that makes sense.... although, I'd like to refer to a statistic I made up....
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    That is good to get another angle and it looks like the other security weren't that close to the kid when he got tased so when the cop pulled the trigger it looks like he wasn't putting the other personel in danger of being inadvertantly hit

    That said the cop from the beginning has his taser out and looks like his intention all along was to use the taser. Looking at it again this does appear so much as a case of the cop getting outrun but just planning on getting in range to use his taser with no intention of trying to run the kid down.
     
  13. juicystream

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    I did notice that. Maybe he used it as a threat at first, but he did seem to be just looking for the right angle to shoot him from.
     
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    And who has said they want to give the kid flowers and hug him?
     
  15. TopsDrop

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    Well, his dad told him it "probably isn't a good idea"
     
  16. Depressio

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    I didn't identify who was A and B. I think made-up statistics are all silly.
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    I noticed in the article you posted it also said this:
    [rquoter]While new research suggests Tasers pose little health risk to those on the receiving end of the weapons, some say their overuse could endanger lives...
    But Dr. Corey Slovis, professor and chairman of emergency medicine at Vanderbilt University, says other recent research suggests that the weapons may be dangerous for some.

    "I think that Tasers in normal subjects are safe," he says, "but I am concerned that emerging evidence may show that they may change the underlying heart rhythm of individuals who do not have a normal conduction system -- such as those using cocaine, those who are dehydrated, agitated, hypoxic or those taking anti-psychotics." [MORE AT LINK] [/rquoter]

    Tasers are still a relatively new technology and we are finding more about them. As I said earlier I think caution should be warranted in their use.

    And no one is saying the kid should be allowed to just run around. That seems to be a strawman that keeps on getting thrown out. I also agree that tackling has its own risk too, I have no idea though what the number of injuries caused by police tackling a suspect versus a taser is though.

    I would still question the officer's judgement in this case as while I will retract my earlier criticism that he may be endangering other personel it does look like that he intended to use the taser from the beginning and had no intention of even trying to restrain the kid through other means.

    I agree with Donny this looks like an out of shape cop which I don't think is a good thing.
     
  18. tmoney1101

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    Agreed, but that was the purpose of statistic B. That is, to match the silliness of statistic A.
     
  19. DonkeyMagic

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    that's only true half of the time.
     
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    I remember when Tasers were first introduced. The police were all over the news reassuring the public it wasn't going to be abused and used as a convenience tool...
     

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